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Budget PC for World of Warcraft?
12-03-2010, 09:20 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-03-2010, 09:37 PM by mtganzer.)
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Budget PC for World of Warcraft?
Trying to build a budget gaming system for my wife to play World of Warcraft. Here sister got her started, and need to something better than the 3 yo Dell Inspiron laptop that was never meant for gaming! Looking to follow the budget gaming system build with an ASRock Extreme3, and spring for the AMD 965BE. 4GB of G.Skill DDR3 1600 that I picked up on Black Friday. But have some questions:

1) Should I also spring for an aftermarket cooler (like the Zalman CNPS10X) for the 965BE? Not really looking to OC right now unless I need to to get a little better frame rate. But also looking for stability and know that keeping CPU temp down helps. I am using a Rosewill Destroyer case, so could also add extra fans if that is a better option.

2) Does the MSI N460GTX Hawk GeForce GTX 460 come with a mini-HDMI-HDMI cable? Or do I need to order one separately?

Can anyone tell me what to expect with this build? From what I have read, WoW is more CPU driven than GPU. But I am also hoping to drive the display at full 1080p. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.


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12-03-2010, 11:14 PM,
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RE: Budget PC for World of Warcraft?
I'm actually looking to build a similar setup, also to play WoW mainly and some FPS's. I bought the same RAM on black Friday since that deal was great. I'm also wondering about needing an after market cooler for the 965, everywhere I read says the factory cooler is fine if you're not OCing but it's supposedly annoyingly loud. I'm actually looking to pick up a 6850 instead of the 460 due to lower power consumption and nearly equal performance, either card will be more than enough to run WoW. It is true that the game is largely CPU dependent, but the new details added in 4.0.1 (water detail etc.) crippled many players older systems.
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12-03-2010, 11:17 PM,
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RE: Budget PC for World of Warcraft?
1. You should spring for an aftermarket cooler but not the Zalman CNPS10X. I would suggest getting a Scythe Mugen 2 instead because it's quieter, cools better, and costs less. The Hyper 212+ is also an excellent option for its price but it isn't as cool or quiet as the Zalman. At stock speeds the AMD 965BE should be able to max out WoW at 1080p resolution (with your graphics card). Although you aren't specifically looking to overclock, the cooler will make an overclock far more successful in the future. If you choose not to overclock, your computer will be much quieter and cooler.

2. It comes with an adapter. You plug the adapter in the mini HDMI port on the video card and you plug your HDMI cable to the other end of the adapter.

WoW is a pretty old game. You'll have absolutely no problem maxing out the game with your video card and processor.
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12-08-2010, 12:48 PM,
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RE: Budget PC for World of Warcraft?
I went with the MSI N460GTX Hawk GeForce GTX 460 because with the rebate it s $40 less expensive than the 6850 cards right now.

The Rosewill Destroyer case was effectively $10 bundled with Win7 Pro during the Newegg Black Friday sale. The Gskill DDR3 1600 memory was also $50 that day. And I got an LG Blu Ray burner for $80 as well.

The rest of the is pretty much by the book for the budget build.
Total right now including Win7 Professional and Rosewill 802.11n adapter is $849.90 before CA sales tax (since I am a CA resident) and shipping.

Have to wait to put it together until after I get done with my CISSP exam Friday. I am also still debating whether or not to order an aftermarket CPU cooler.

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12-08-2010, 06:17 PM,
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RE: Budget PC for World of Warcraft?
I'd get one for the peace of mind, not having to worry about the temperature of your CPU, especially considering that the Phenom II X4 965 is a 130W chip.

Also, there's the noise issue with the stock cooler, something that I can't tolerate myself.

In short: The stock cooler is fine but an after-market cooler is much better and in my opinion, worth it. The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus is what I'd recommend, great performance at a great price.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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12-08-2010, 06:52 PM,
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RE: Budget PC for World of Warcraft?
Ok. I'll do that. While I am at it, will the 3 fans in the Destroyer case be sufficient? Should I put a second fan at the top?
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12-08-2010, 07:32 PM,
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RE: Budget PC for World of Warcraft?
(12-08-2010, 06:52 PM)mtganzer Wrote: Ok. I'll do that. While I am at it, will the 3 fans in the Destroyer case be sufficient? Should I put a second fan at the top?

There will be more than sufficient, no need to add case fans.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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12-22-2010, 10:55 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-22-2010, 11:17 PM by mtganzer.)
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RE: Budget PC for World of Warcraft?
Well finally got the system built last weekend, and got my wife's data (and WoW files) moved over from her laptop. She is VERY impressed.

The build went smoothly. The only cable I got wrong was I got the the disk led flipped. That was easily fixed.

My good digital camera died, so the only pics I got were with my Blackberry. Have to figure out how to get them posted.
Other comments:
- The Rosewill Destroyer was noisier than I expected. The culprit (found by process of elimination) seems to be the rear exhaust fan. It's not annoyingly loud, so I probably won't do anything for a while. I could probably add a controller and slow the fans down as the system temps are quite low. Also, I do realize it WAS a budget build - if I wanted a really quiet system, it would have cost significantly more.
- The ASRock Extreme3 seems to get into a wierd state if Windows 7 64-bit tries to put it to sleep. Have had to disable sleep mode in the power settings. Also the PWM driver doesn't seem to do anything - it looks like the CPU fan is running 100% pretty much full time.
- I had to add a line to the WoW config.wtf file to force DirectX 11 mode, otherwise the mouse cursor disappeared. But once I got that sorted out, I was able to run it at 1920x1080 with all the video effects set to high (what the game recommended). Haven't tried to see what the "ultra" settings do yet, but the wife s still VERY pleased with the move up from 800x600 mode on laptop!
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12-23-2010, 03:39 PM,
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RE: Budget PC for World of Warcraft?
Oh one other comment: I've been building PC's since the '486 days, but it had been probably 8 years since my last build (a Shuttle shoebox for my daughter). This had to be the smoothest/easiest build I have done. SATA makes life SO much easier - no master/slave jumpers or big ribbon cables.
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12-25-2010, 09:23 AM,
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RE: Budget PC for World of Warcraft?
Regarding the noisy fan: You could also just replace it by a less noisy fan, that would cost you $10-$15. A fan controller would allow you to control all the case fans for $30-$40.

For the CPU fan, did you plug it on the 4-pin header on the motherboard? Also, did you enable Cool & Quiet in the BIOS?

Agreed on SATA, much easier to figure and it makes less of a mess with its small cable.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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