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Searching for a GPU that fits my Needs.
05-09-2016, 12:14 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-09-2016, 12:19 PM by Edgerunner.)
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Searching for a GPU that fits my Needs.
FX 6300 CPU OC'd to 4.4
Cooler Master 212EVO
GA-990FXA-UD3
Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600
Corsair CSM 750W

I am a semi-gamer and an avid HD Streamer. I have gotten rid of everything but Netflix and I watch all of my shows and movies on-line.

What I want is a GPU that will allow me to stream 1920x1080 HD with little/no problems.
I do tend to game but I am not overly concerned with Ultra settings. Med/High is good enough for me but I would like to pull a solid 40 FPS.
I would prefer to use Crysis3 and Star Citizen as the benchmark.

I know the GTX 970 gets bottlenecked with the 6300, but for my Needs is it really an issue because those prices are about to drop significantly IMO.

My budget is between $200 - $300
Just want the best Bang for my Buck that fits my Needs.
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05-10-2016, 11:28 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-10-2016, 12:51 PM by pedwards.)
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Searching for a GPU that fits my Needs.
It looks like you've done some good research yourself already. I do agree that the GTX line should drop but not sure how far the lower tier will come down. I saw one on Amazon for $320, so it dropping to below $300 at least is probable just not sure how much.

Regarding streaming HD, any low end discrete GPU would be enough, but you mentioned some heavy hitters there in terms of Crysis 3 and especially Star Citizen. However from what I've seen, many people with a 970 handles those 2 easily above 40fps and more like 60+ especially for Crysis 3, so you should be ok.

Only point I would question is where did you read that the FX 6300 would bottleneck a 970? I've seen much to support the opposite. The only bottleneck would be CPU heavy games but sure you know which ones those are already and would have experienced that if you use them.

So yes, if you were eyeing the 970, then when the 1070/80 comes out the end of this month and the prices dip, then would say safe to say it's a good pick.

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UPDATE: Ah ok. I see the bottleneck point you made. Saw it further down on Tomshardware. Well granted it ultimately depends on your upgrade path. If you plan to keep the 970 for your next platform update, no harm in getting it now. Otherwise could go with a 960 or even lower frankly.

Now I'm second guessing what FPS you could get in Star Citizen. Perhaps still more than 40 fps, but Ill do more research. EDIT: well seems SC should be ok at med settings

So let us know what your future upgrades could be to see if the 970 now makes sense or we match up something more aligned to FX6300.



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05-10-2016, 01:28 PM,
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RE: Searching for a GPU that fits my Needs.
I don't have any thing to add over what pedwards wrote.

if you are near a microcenter, EVGA GTX 970 for $225 after rebate, but it is in store only.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/43937...nt_Cooling
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05-11-2016, 01:53 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-11-2016, 04:07 PM by PwnBroker.)
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RE: Searching for a GPU that fits my Needs.
netflix and other stream services render video on the server side so the gpu performance is basically irrelevant.

the 6300 wont totally bottleneck a 970 but it will get close in some games such as star citizen even on ultra settings, but you have to remember that some games by independent devs, even though using the same game engine, are usually poorly optimized. yours is overclocked so that alleviates some of the bottleneck. one way to alleviate cpu-gpu bottlenecks is to increase display, increase game detail settings, and/or overclock the cpu. on some games, bf4 64 player mp for example, it may appear that even a 4 core i5 may be bottlenecked because of high cpu utilization. not really, because Dice designed the game to run a 6 core cpu towards 100 %.

take this fro example:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qQtt2ympAsw

see how the cpu is running in the 80's and the gpu is pretty much at 60%. this appears to be a bottleneck right?

now this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7fm9I-gBK20

gpu utilization is nearing 100% while he cpu appears to be at 60-70%beven though these are very high settings instead of ultra. no bottleneck right?

nope, poor game code optimization in star citizen since they are both using ce3(4) game engine. also keep in mind that the first video is at stock cpu freqs where as the second is overclocked and makes somewhat of a difference.

if i could get a deal on a 970 i would go for it, that would allow at least high settings on those 2 games. with a 960 it would save some cash and allow a medium setting more or less.
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05-12-2016, 03:22 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-12-2016, 03:22 PM by Rapajez.)
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RE: Searching for a GPU that fits my Needs.
Might as well go for a 970. In the event you ever want to go upgrade your monitor to 2k/4k, or try out some VR, the 970 will get you the bare minimum. Even if you stay at 1080p, it should also let you keep games maxed out near 60 FPS (why 40?) for a few years to come.
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