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Buying a Laptop
04-11-2016, 05:05 PM,
#1
Buying a Laptop
Looking at a XPS 15 Touch (unless I can save weight/money on the non-Touch), with the specs below. I can get 15% off through work. I know the GPU is a little underwhelming, but I'm not looking to do any heavy gaming, and if I did, I'd probably use Steam-Streaming anyway. Mostly just want something more portable, lighter, and a nicer display than the machine I have now for travel. That and a fast SSD (PCIe + DDR4!?).

Base XPS 15
Operating System Windows 10 Pro 64-bit English
Processor 6th Generation Intel Core i7-6700HQ Quad Core (6M Cache, up to 3.5 GHz)
Memory 16GB DDR4-2133MHz; up to 32GB (additional memory sold separately)
Hard Drive 512GB PCIe Solid State Drive
Video Card NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 960M with 2GB GDDR5
Display 15.6" 4K Ultra HD (3840 x 2160) InfinityEdge touch
Wireless DW1830 3x3 802.11ac 2.4/5GHz + Bluetooth 4.1

What do you think?
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04-12-2016, 01:52 AM,
#2
RE: Buying a Laptop
Specs look OK. That one is is a true 4 core + HT core i7 vs some of the low power variants which are only two core. http://ark.intel.com/products/family/883...rs#@Mobile

You might lurk the dell community forum to see what comments (usually complaints) people are posting. http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/

I've had good success with dell laptops in the past, still have two actively in use.

If you are not already, sign up for the dell advantage and you might get a little more one way or another. http://www.dell.com/en-us/member/learn/f...ds-details
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04-12-2016, 02:32 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-12-2016, 02:33 AM by pedwards.)
#3
Buying a Laptop
D'ohh. Dan-H beats me again!

You'll love the device, although do indeed check the forums if there is a glaring problem, but for the most part you'll see complaints that you should take with a grain of salt. I've owned Alienware for years and although I think that they have gone backwards with that line (BGA? Why?), the XPS it has been nothing but good since they went private. I never had a problem with their support but always bought their 3 year service warranties - that's just me.

As Dan-H mentioned, Stay away from the "U" low power variant as it seems you did, as long as you recognize that the battery life is not stellar.

I wouldn't worry about the gaming performance as that card is driving a UHD+ monitor and most benchmarks I've seen don't show the resolution.

For example if I use my 2-3 yr old Alienware m14x-R2 with the following specs:

M14xR2
i7-3740 QM CPU
GeForceGT 650M at 1920x1080
12 GB RAM
mSata 512GB

Benchmarks (I believe were 1920x1080)
3DMark 11 P2391
Icestorm 84602
Cloudgate 10186
Firestrike 1447

I've never had problems with any games that I recall. It was a beast at the time.

From what I see, here you'll have:
3DMark 11 P5547 via Reddit - assuming 1920x1080
Firestrike Ultra 731 via CNET

So although it may not be intended as a gaming rig, it would beat the pants off my 14" Alienware at the same rez.

You could always lower the resolution instead of the settings and sure it would tear through most anything! Steam streaming is decent as well. I've actually used it on Tomb Raider streaming from my tower and was impressed.

Not to mention you have that PCI-e SSD.

Honestly I don't think you can go wrong.

BTW - seems the Reddit community approves from what I can tell. Something like "This little (puppy) doesn't throttle? Seriously? Amazing." To clean up and paraphrase.




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04-12-2016, 12:13 PM,
#4
RE: Buying a Laptop
Nice, I came to most of the same conclusions, but figured I'd run it by my favorite community first.

The only difference is I might go for the "non-touch" "non-UHD" variant. Save like $300, less weight...etc...again, mostly just games like WoW and streaming Hulu in the hotel room...
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04-12-2016, 08:01 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-12-2016, 08:02 PM by Dan-H.)
#5
RE: Buying a Laptop
can you post specs of the display's ?

If it is a 1080p 15 inch, I think I'd go for it if it saved weight, and money?

I don't have alot to compare with. We have an older 15 inch inspiron with a 1366x768 and it is meh, but it is also 5 years old. Another older 5-year old 17 inch inspiron is 1600x900 and honestly it isn't bad. It is kindof slow since it is a first gen core i3 but for home stuff with an SSD it works just fine.

Now to be fari, I can't put either next to my MacBook Pro 15 Retina and compare because it is night and day, but for the right price, I think I'd go 1080p.
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04-13-2016, 12:57 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-13-2016, 03:15 AM by pedwards.)
#6
Buying a Laptop
Honestly I think the touch/non-touch is a personal question like choosing a case. For me I'm not inclined to try to smudge my screen when I have a perfectly good keyboard and touchpad/mouse. It's not like this is a 2-in-1 either, but with Windows 10 there is still utility.

On top of that I thought that the "non-touch" screen was NOT an option at UHD+ on the Dell site ( aka required ) when I was looking but perhaps they diversified their portfolio more.

The point about WoW and Hulu that you and Dan-H are discussing... It's valid. I understand WoW doesn't scale easily outside of 1080p without some effort. Hulu, I don't live in the USA so can't comment on their UHD+ content.

Its difficult to say as all the reviewers only review the higher rez screens.

Personally if I could afford it - I would stick with the UHD+ even if I had no choice to include touch. Reason being WoW, other games, and other services will start to adopt higher resolutions. And hearing how the screen is gorgeous makes me think you won't regret it. Worst case if you want the lower rez you can always configure it down but you can't decide later you'll want higher rez as its too late.


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04-14-2016, 10:46 AM,
#7
RE: Buying a Laptop
i agree with pedwards on the 4k display(it would be excellent at laptop viewing distance), but there a couple of cons per this review that you need to hink about. the 4k screen doesnt have as good color as the 1080p model, the ssd speed is slower on the 4k version(probably due to sharing pcie lanes witht the gpu), and battery life is about half that of the 1080p model.

http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/dell-xps-15

good luck
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04-20-2016, 04:02 PM,
#8
RE: Buying a Laptop
(04-14-2016, 10:46 AM)PwnBroker Wrote: i agree with pedwards on the 4k display(it would be excellent at laptop viewing distance), but there a couple of cons per this review that you need to hink about. the 4k screen doesnt have as good color as the 1080p model, the ssd speed is slower on the 4k version(probably due to sharing pcie lanes witht the gpu), and battery life is about half that of the 1080p model.

http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/dell-xps-15

good luck

Agreed. I get where pedwards is coming from, but I'll trade the UHD display, for 4 hours of battery life, faster SSD, and $300. It's not like the laptop could support gaming at 4k anyway. I'm coming from an ancient 10 pound 1366x768 display anyway, so a bright 1080p IPS display will still be a nice improvement. Smile
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04-22-2016, 02:36 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-22-2016, 02:43 AM by pedwards.)
#9
Buying a Laptop
Wink
Hey Rapajez. To each his own my friend, no worries.

If through this discussion, it solidified your choice, then even better. That's what's most important, and why we all come here.

In that regard, Happy to play the role of Mr. counterargument. That UHD+ screen is still gorgeous!
Colors not as good? Sure.
Better battery life? Absolutely.
SSD slowdown? Seems so, but benchmarking vs noticeable performance vs what you had before is the question. (agree on this one a bit of a miss on Dell's part)
Laptop GPU underpowered for UHD+? Yes, but ... closer than it's ever been.

Although pretty much any laptop gpu is underpowered for that rez, it's overkill for 1080p.

Heh. Smile. Sorry couldn't help myself. Really my point was more there are Dell haters out there, and this XPS model is stellar in terms of build quality that even the trolls take notice, and have less ammunition.

EDIT: let us know what you think when you get it! Looking forward to your thoughts.

Cheers!


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04-24-2016, 11:15 AM,
#10
RE: Buying a Laptop
i like dell laptops. i get a new one every 2 years on a lease roll at work and have yet to have one fail albeit they are latitude series. the other guys that get the HP laptops are always having trouble with them.
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