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New GPU for 1080p 60fps gameplay
11-12-2015, 01:27 PM,
#1
New GPU for 1080p 60fps gameplay
Hi Everyone!

First off, here are my current specs:
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500 (Sandy Bridge, non-K version)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M/U3S3 (H61 chipset)
RAM: 8GB 1333MHz
GPU: Radeon HD 7850

I think my CPU is still decent for gaming (correct me if I'm wrong) so I'd like to keep it and buy a GPU that would give me nice constant 60fps in 1080p on high settings (maxed out, ideally). Is that possible? Anything up to the Geforce GTX 980 Ti 6GB is in range budget-wise but I obviously don't want to get an expensive card that will be bottlenecked by the rest of the hardware.

So what would be the BEST card to get in this situation? Any suggestions and comments will be much appreciated!

As a bonus question, I will need a new PSU as well. I can use that power calculator thingy once I know which card to get but if you have any suggestions - ideally a modular one - that would be great too. I have an HDD, an SDD, no other expansion cards besides the GPU, no optical drives. Thanks!
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11-12-2015, 05:46 PM,
#2
New GPU for 1080p 60fps gameplay
Honestly you could do fine with a 980 which would easily handle 1080p at 60fps at max settings most games, in addition to having a lower TDP so you could keep your current PSU power range with no problems. That and it's $130 cheaper than a 980ti.

I recommend the 980 as the minimum you should shoot for given its within the 3 tiers more powerful than the 7950 and be a noticeable performance increase.

Now I will say that typically you should buy what you can afford and we are getting close to the holiday season with deals so you may be able to score either the 980 or 980ti cheaper.

Even if the 980ti isn't discounted I would recommend it if you can afford it. Why? Well if you think in the next year you may want more than 1080p, well the 980ti will still be there for you, although you *may* start hitting some bottlenecks with the 2500 (not to mention requiring roughly 60 more watts from your PSU as well for the 980ti).

For modular PSU recommendations, PwnBroker or Dan-H are more familiar with brands. I only go by what I see from them or on Mathieu's site. So no expert here.


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SSD: Samsung 830 Series 256GB SATA 6.0Gb/s HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB PSU: SeaSonic Platinum-1000 80 PLUS Modular ODD: SONY DVD 24x
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11-13-2015, 01:17 AM,
#3
RE: New GPU for 1080p 60fps gameplay
If I can keep my current PSU, that would be great. It's an Antec VP500PC but it only has one PCI-E connector. I checked on Newegg and the EVGA GTX 980 has cables to connect some other lines to the card but I'm not sure if that will work power-wise.
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11-13-2015, 10:26 AM,
#4
New GPU for 1080p 60fps gameplay
Doesn't the 7950 have the same 2x6 pin connectors as the 980? I think they do and should use the same cables, once you remove the 7950.


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SSD: Samsung 830 Series 256GB SATA 6.0Gb/s HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB PSU: SeaSonic Platinum-1000 80 PLUS Modular ODD: SONY DVD 24x
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11-13-2015, 11:45 AM,
#5
New GPU for 1080p 60fps gameplay
Oh wait. You have a 7850 not a 7950. That only has one 6 pin connector. So if you need 2 connectors, yeah you would need a new power supply anyway. I was looking up the wrong card the entire time.


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11-13-2015, 08:26 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-13-2015, 09:25 PM by Dan-H.)
#6
RE: New GPU for 1080p 60fps gameplay
A factory overclocked GTX 970 is really good at 1080p, but it still needs a new PSU. I can't justify the price/performance difference from a GTX 970 to a GTX 980, but *IF* I tripped over a bucket of money and I'd buy a GTX 980ti and a really nice 4K monitor.

Did you read this page: http://www.hardware-revolution.com/best-...mber-2015/

On PSUs. I got some good advice here, and then did a ton of reading and researching after I bought my first Seasonic and decided to buy two more for follow on builds. I own three Seasonic X-650 KM3s and they are solid.

There are lots of PSU brands but only a few manufacturers. For example, EVGA has gotten into the PSU market and their Supernova line has three different manufacturers. for their 80 plus gold versions the G1 is made by FSP and is Meh, their GS is made by Seasonic and looks really good and their G2 is made by Superflower and looks awesome.

https://www.evga.com/Products/ProductLis...=650+Watts

If I were buying another PSU today, I think I would buy the supernova G2 650W.

650W is a good size but 750W might be better if you are thinking about GTX 980ti class cards.

Also, I have no direct experience with that CPU and or Motherboard / chipset but from what I've read on the internet, PCIe 2.0 x16 is nearly the same as PCIe 3.0 16 for single graphics card performance at 1080p and that your i7 2500 will also be fine for most games.
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Mem: 2 x 8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3 2400 SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB + a few spinners
PSU: Seasonic SS-760XP Platinum Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Monitors: 2 x Dell 2007FP 1600x1200
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11-14-2015, 10:43 AM,
#7
RE: New GPU for 1080p 60fps gameplay
the spec sheet of your current psu shows it has 2 -6+2 pcie connectors. i would check it again to make sure. if it only has one connector most 970 and 980 kits comes with a dual connector adapter and that psu will handle that config fine. that card draws 145w max load and add that to maybe 200w max system load and your only looking at 350w total power consumption. those 2 12 v rails are rated at 21 and 24 amps and the gpu converts to about 11 amps at 100 percent load.

if u still think you need a new psu any of the ones on matb's build list are solid and the ones danh listed as well. if you run your machine at 50 percent load 8 hrs a day 7 days a week 52 weeks a year then the higher rated plus standards might be for you. otherwise a bronze rated supply might be the best effeciency/dollar value, depending on your local electricity costs.

as far as bottlenecking a 4 core cpu with a single gpu, it aint gonna happen. albeit you will get performance increase with skylake.

good luck
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11-14-2015, 11:44 AM,
#8
RE: New GPU for 1080p 60fps gameplay
(11-14-2015, 10:43 AM)PwnBroker Wrote: the spec sheet of your current psu shows it has 2 -6+2 pcie connectors.

Good catch. I took the OP's comment at face value and did not look.
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11-14-2015, 05:31 PM,
#9
RE: New GPU for 1080p 60fps gameplay
(11-14-2015, 11:44 AM)Dan-H Wrote:
(11-14-2015, 10:43 AM)PwnBroker Wrote: the spec sheet of your current psu shows it has 2 -6+2 pcie connectors.

Good catch. I took the OP's comment at face value and did not look.

Like I said.. not expert on PSUs. Smile

Dan-H I was thinking originally the 970 for 1080p in Mathieu's article but then thought about the OP mentioning he could afford up to 980ti. So future proofing (say 2560 x 1600 anyone?) thought 980 is a better choice if they could invest in it.

Meanwhile I think the connectors don't matter given that the 980 has a higher TDP (verus a 7850) by another 35 watts, unless we go with the 970 which should be similar power to the 7850, but I can't seem to find specs on the OC... same power needs? Need a new PSU anyway?

Yes, I'm still a fan of the 980ti + 4K. Was trying to be subtle.. but then again that's probably over budget at that point. Wink
CPU: Intel i7-2600K @4.2GHz Mobo: ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 RAM: Corsair Vengence 8GB 1600Mhz DDR3 GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB
SSD: Samsung 830 Series 256GB SATA 6.0Gb/s HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB PSU: SeaSonic Platinum-1000 80 PLUS Modular ODD: SONY DVD 24x
CPU Cooler: Thermalright SilverArrow Sound: Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty PCI-E Case: CM Storm Trooper
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