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Devil's Canyon, the Haswell re-fresh
07-03-2014, 10:50 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-04-2014, 08:11 AM by PwnBroker.)
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Devil's Canyon, the Haswell re-fresh
has hit the shelves, and by the looks of the reviews they look like a winner. higher clocks, cooler package albeit a little more voltage hungry, and a multiplier unlocked pentium to boot(but it comes with an investment in a premium motherboard). whats not to like.

http://promotions.newegg.com/intel/14-32...fgodXpMAqQ
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07-04-2014, 03:46 PM,
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RE: Devil's Canyon, the Haswell re-fresh
Lovely. Definitely going to recommend those three CPUs Smile
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07-04-2014, 04:48 PM,
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RE: Devil's Canyon, the Haswell re-fresh
wow a stock i7 @ 4.0 ghz. that cpu must be notably faster than haswell's i7.
not by much but you must notice it.
IDK you guys but those pentium cpus can be overclock very well according to tom's hardware the pentium ones overclocks around 40% over its base clock.
and they quote:
Eventually, we settled on 4.5 GHz with two active cores and a maximum Turbo Boost setting of 4.6 GHz for unflagging stability under Prime95. That sounds fairly modest for something like a Core i7-4770K. But remember this is a 3.2 GHz CPU overclocked more than 40%.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pent...849-2.html
time to make 16 cores cpus @ 5.5 ghz amd XP (JK).
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07-04-2014, 06:09 PM,
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RE: Devil's Canyon, the Haswell re-fresh
The unlocked Pentium, if overclocked, is a viable option for a Budget Gaming PC, especially if you plan to upgrade the CPU to a Core i5/i7 down the road. Gaming performance is better than the Athlon X4 750/760K, which I've been recommending for Tier 0.75 for a while now.

At this rate, Intel will be taking over all Gaming PC Tiers, except for Tier 0.5 Rolleyes

Not good for competition...nor for us.
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07-04-2014, 06:48 PM,
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RE: Devil's Canyon, the Haswell re-fresh
(07-04-2014, 06:09 PM)MathieuB Wrote: The unlocked Pentium, if overclocked, is a viable option for a Budget Gaming PC, especially if you plan to upgrade the CPU to a Core i5/i7 down the road. Gaming performance is better than the Athlon X4 750/760K, which I've been recommending for Tier 0.75 for a while now.

At this rate, Intel will be taking over all Gaming PC Tiers, except for Tier 0.5 Rolleyes

Not good for competition...nor for us.

i completely agree with you.
but atleast the x360 gpu is an ati, wiiu's gpu is an amd one and the newest consoles runs nothing but amd hardware.
i wish amd use that game consoles revenue to develop better cpus and gpus.
amd= console market
intel=desktop cpu market
nvidia=high end gpu market
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07-07-2014, 02:59 PM,
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RE: Devil's Canyon, the Haswell re-fresh
Is it true that SOME Z87's MAY support these, but ALL Z97's do? If so, at the current prices, it looks like there's no reason to recommend a Z87 board over a Z97, unless you're getting a big deal. Plus I think Broadwell will work with Z97, correct?

You're also getting SATA-Express and that M2 whatever-interface-that-no-drives-seem-to-be-using-yet...but still.
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07-07-2014, 04:57 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-07-2014, 05:10 PM by PwnBroker.)
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RE: Devil's Canyon, the Haswell re-fresh
(07-07-2014, 02:59 PM)Rapajez Wrote: Is it true that SOME Z87's MAY support these, but ALL Z97's do? If so, at the current prices, it looks like there's no reason to recommend a Z87 board over a Z97, unless you're getting a big deal. Plus I think Broadwell will work with Z97, correct?

You're also getting SATA-Express and that M2 whatever-interface-that-no-drives-seem-to-be-using-yet...but still.

ive heard that SOME z87's will be compatible with a bios update to handle the power requirements.

broadwell is supposedly to be only directly compatible with the z97 chipset even though it is an 1150 socket because of the new power requirements, and as far as i know they may only offer K series desktop parts.

(07-04-2014, 06:48 PM)jangelelcangry Wrote:
(07-04-2014, 06:09 PM)MathieuB Wrote: The unlocked Pentium, if overclocked, is a viable option for a Budget Gaming PC, especially if you plan to upgrade the CPU to a Core i5/i7 down the road. Gaming performance is better than the Athlon X4 750/760K, which I've been recommending for Tier 0.75 for a while now.

At this rate, Intel will be taking over all Gaming PC Tiers, except for Tier 0.5 Rolleyes

Not good for competition...nor for us.

i completely agree with you.
but atleast the x360 gpu is an ati, wiiu's gpu is an amd one and the newest consoles runs nothing but amd hardware.
i wish amd use that game consoles revenue to develop better cpus and gpus.
amd= console market
intel=desktop cpu market
nvidia=high end gpu market

id only build put that pentium in a z97 board if i new for sure that the customer will be upgrading to at least the new i5 soon. single player benchmarks looks fine enough but when you put it in those multi player maps of those same games thats were you will see it get hit with fps drops. they didnt include crysis 3 in those benchmarks and i would say that chip would have problems with that game as well. if you noticed in those benchmarks, the newer game engine had very little frame improvement with the higher clock speed.

jangle,
amd changed their business strategy a couple of years ago, they are not in the desktop cpu race anymore. their strategy lies in their server chips, low power system embedded chips(partnered with ARM), all in one APU's and gpu's.

intel uses their mobile designs to spin off into the desktop market and amd uses their server chip designs to spin off into the desktop market. intel is still lagging behind in their iGPU designs beshind amd, which is important in the tablet, laptop, and mobile market. desktop sales have been waning over the years to laptop, pad and mobile devices.

as far as gpu's amd has given nvidia a run for their money and comparing nvidia's best to amd's best, well they are pretty dang close. amd has one trick though, GCN aka Mantle that over 50 devs has signed onto. intel is even interested in Mantle and has asked them for access to the api for "experimentation purposes".

these companies are in it to make money, if they cant then they restructure their product line, and yes, if they have no competition then our desktop parts will be little more expensive.
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