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Build question
06-15-2014, 11:02 PM,
#1
Build question
I've never been good with computers, but I am a hardcore gamer and after wasting my money on an alienware laptop a few years back I'm looking to build a new desktop that can cater to my gaming needs. I'm looking to buy from ibuypower.com most likely, or somewhere with similar parts.

1. Budget
My budget is around 1000-1300$. I have no need for any peripherals, just the machine itself.

2. Purpose
I'm looking to be able to play the most recent games at high or ultra qualities. I play lots of MMOs(currently World of Warcraft and Wildstar) and want them to both look pretty and run flawlessly in high intensity areas. I have also done some streaming before and that has been a passion of mine along with video editing, so that is something I would also like to be able to do while gaming at high graphics levels. I'm also going to be playing games like Skyrim, Sims 4(when released) and as those have been problem areas for my current computer I would want my new computer to run them flawlessly. My screen resolution is 1920x1080.

3. Upgrading
I have never before upgraded my computer but after reading some guides and recommendations I will definitely be doing it in the future when it is needed. However I don't want to purchase a mediocre system now that I have to upgrade right away.

4. Possible build(as mentioned above, I've never done this before so I went off recommendations. Yes I'm a newbie; so any advice is greatly appreciated.)

Case
iBUYPOWER Revolt Mini Tower Gaming Case
Case Lighting
Revolt Advanced Lighting
Processor
Intel® Core™ i5-4670K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core™ i5-4670K
iBUYPOWER PowerDrive
Processor Cooling
Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink (Intel)
Memory
8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module (Revolt) - Corsair or Major Brand **FREE Upgrade to DDR3-1866 ADATA XPG V2**
Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 - 2GB - Single Card
Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-Z97N-WIFI ITX --- 1x PCIe 3.0 x16, 2x USB 3.0, 6x SATA-III 6Gb/s
Power Supply
500 Watt - FSP 1U 80 Plus Gold Certificated Power Supply - *Support up to NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN
Primary Hard Drive
1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s Single Drive
Data Hard Drive
None
Optical Drive
6x BLU-RAY Reader + DVD±R/±RW Slot Load Combo Drive
USB Expansion Card
None
Internal Wireless Network Adapter
None
Operating System
Windows 8.1 + Office 365 Trial [Free 30-Day !!!] 64-bit
Monitor
None
2nd Monitor
None
Speaker System
None
Webcam
None
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty Service
Rush Service
No Rush Service (Usually Ships in 5-10 business Days)

Any advice with this build or possible other builds would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
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06-16-2014, 12:48 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-16-2014, 12:59 AM by Dan-H.)
#2
RE: Build question
This is pretty close to a system I've been thinking about building with a few differences.

Mine includes an SSD, which is must-have and a GTX 770 which is worth the step up IMO.

I've been watching prices and some bump up and down a little but this has been fairly stable.

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.97 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14 CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($134.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($319.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($67.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1316.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-16 01:45 EDT-0400

I should comment I have other hard disks to use as the 250GB is not enough on its own for many.

And, the Z97 motherboards came out since I last updated this so I would probably go with one of those since they are newer and have some nice upsides. Also the case was more of a placeholder than a choice.

If I were cutting costs, I'd drop the blu ray player. and go with a cheaper DVDRW.
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.7Ghz Mobo: Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5 GPU: MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G HSF: Cryorig R1 Ultimate
Mem: 2 x 8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3 2400 SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB + a few spinners
PSU: Seasonic SS-760XP Platinum Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Monitors: 2 x Dell 2007FP 1600x1200
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06-16-2014, 12:16 PM,
#3
RE: Build question
Alright so I did some upgrading and changing around and this is the build I came up with:


Limited Time Instant Rebate X
Case 1 x iBUYPOWER Revolt Mini Tower Gaming Case
Case Lighting 1 x Revolt Advanced Lighting
Processor 1 x Intel® Core™ i5-4670K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core™ i5-4670K
iBUYPOWER PowerDrive X
Processor Cooling 1 x Corsair Hydro Series H55 Liquid CPU Cooling System - Standard 120mm Fan
Memory 1 x 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module (Revolt) - Corsair or Major Brand **FREE Upgrade to DDR3-1866 ADATA XPG V2**
Video Card 1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 - 2GB - Single Card
Free Stuff 1 x [FREE] - McAfee Antivirus PLUS 2014 - FREE with any System ($49 Value)
Free Stuff 1 x [FREE Game Coupon] - Watch Dogs - w/ purchase of GTX 760 Video Card or Above
Motherboard 1 x MSI Z97-I Gaming AC --USB 3.0 + SATA 6Gb/s + eSATA 6Gb/s
Power Supply 1 x 500 Watt - FSP 1U 80 Plus Gold Certificated Power Supply - *Support up to NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN
Primary Hard Drive 1 x 2 TB 7200RPM HARD DRIVE + 128GB SanDisk SSD [Special Bundle]
Data Hard Drive X
Optical Drive 1 x Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Slot Load Drive
USB Expansion Card X
Internal Wireless Network Adapter X
Operating System 1 x Windows 8.1 + Office 365 Trial [Free 30-Day !!!] 64-bit
Monitor X
2nd Monitor X
Speaker System X
Webcam X
Warranty 1 x 3 Year Standard Warranty Service
Rush Service 1 x No Rush Service (Usually Ships in 5-10 business Days)

I upgraded the motherboard, the GPU, and changed the hard drive to a 2TB hard drive + 128GB SSD bundle.

Again any info regarding this build would be greatly appreciated.
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06-16-2014, 10:19 PM,
#4
RE: Build question
I think my main question is what about the ibuypower appeals to you?

I don't have any knowledge of them as a company but google-ing them shows they've been around a while.

I think the tradeoff is do you want to buy a pre-built by someone else in a proprietary case? or do you want to build your own. I think tradeoffs is that system may be limited by what fits in the case. It looks pretty cool for a turn key system but it won't grow or expand.

Price wise, I just priced the system you listed, and it came to $1277 before shipping.

Here is a similar system but with a few items slightly nicer. You might want a different case as the one listed is fairly vanilla looking.

GPU - MSI GTX 770 which overclocks a little compared to the nVidia reference card and has great cooling
SSD - larger, and one of the top rated models
case - larger with more cooling fan options
memory - slightly faster so it may have more overclocking potential
motherboard -- fullsize ATX, and in the future it could can handle a second GPU. ( however the PSU listed is not sufficient ) and has 4 memory slots for a future memory upgrade without throwing memory away.
PSU - seasonic 660w platinum is a very high-end psu (today at a great price)


CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 7 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($319.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1312.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-16 23:02 EDT-0400

Overall the system listed above is $36 more than what you listed, but I think it has some higher end components in the same class, and has mainstream parts that can be upgraded and replaced more easily.

You could build out an Intel Z97 Core i5/i7 Configurator, and choose a mini tower case and add the same level components but it will roll up to about $1560

In the end I'm not sure I'm helping or not but if you are comfortable building your own, I think you can get a better system for the same or less. If not, it looks like ibuypower offers nice components as part of their builds.
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.7Ghz Mobo: Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5 GPU: MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G HSF: Cryorig R1 Ultimate
Mem: 2 x 8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3 2400 SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB + a few spinners
PSU: Seasonic SS-760XP Platinum Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Monitors: 2 x Dell 2007FP 1600x1200
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06-17-2014, 02:23 AM,
#5
RE: Build question
Hey and thanks for the reply. The main appeal behind ibuypower for me is that they will build it for me. I've never assembled a computer on my own and honestly I'm not interested in trying due to fear of failure and lack of motivation to learn.
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06-17-2014, 03:32 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-17-2014, 03:34 PM by Rapajez.)
#6
RE: Build question
Dan-H summed it up pretty well. You lose the warranty (although the individual parts have their own), but gain better (faster) components, and more room for upgrades. Granted, this system should meet all of your requested needs for now. These days a PC can be assembled in a few hours, and there are 10 minute YouTube videos that cover the entire process. It's your money of course!

Either way, not sure how iPower configures the drive. Be sure that Windows and your MMO's get installed to the SSD, and your documents, videos, etc, go on the Hard Drive. There's articles on this site on how to do so. Honestly, you'll probably appreciate the speed gain from the SSD more than the video card and CPU. Smile Not sure what iPower includes, but on a good SSD, the loading times in WoW, Skyrim, etc, almost disappear completely.
GPU: NVIDIA Titan X, CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz OC'd @ 4.5GHz, Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Mem: 2x Corsair Dominator 2133MHz 8GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO, Case: Corsair Carbide 500R, PSU: Corsair TX850M, CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14, Case Fans: 4x Cooler Master Excalibur 120mm PWM, Monitors: 3x ViewSonic VX2270SMH-LED in NVIDIA Surround
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