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Build and ram question
06-11-2014, 11:58 PM,
#1
Build and ram question
Below is my build. Minus the minor parts, I.E. DvD player, Arctic paste, keyboard. Anyway, I'm seeing what you guys think? Also will the RAM I have chosen work in the motherboard I'm interested in using. I tweaked your Mainstream and High end with a few interests of my own. I have between 1900-2200 budget. I'm looking to play any game I want to play at whatever resolution I choose. I haven't decided what res that is.


Azza XT 1 Watt Full Tower Gaming Cases, White CSAZ- XT1 W

ASUS P9X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard by Asus

Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Quiet CPU Cooler for Intel LGA 2011 Socket with 6 Heatpipes, 140/120mm SSO Bearing PWM Fans NH-D14 SE2011

Creative Sound Blaster Z SBX PCIE Gaming Sound Card with Beamforming Microphone SB1500

ASUS Graphics Cards R9290-DC2OC-4GD5 by Asus

Patriot 16GB(2x8GB) Viper III DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) CL11 Desktop Memory With Black Mamba Heatsink

Corsair RM Series 850 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified Power Supply - CP-9020056-NA RM850 by Corsair

Intel i7-4930K LGA 2011 64 Technology Extended Memory CPU Processors BX80633I74930K
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06-12-2014, 04:35 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-12-2014, 04:42 PM by Rapajez.)
#2
RE: Build and ram question
1.) If you stick with the "X79" LGA 2011 Platform, you want a "Quad-Channel" pack of RAM. Four sticks of identical 4GB RAM, in one package. Otherwise, you're not using one of the main advantages of the X79 platform.

2.) I don't see storage on here, but at the budget, you absolutely want to include a good sized SSD. There's no reason to build a modern PC without one.

3.) The Noctua comes with the thermal paste applied, better than a human could do it. Smile

My main problem with this build, is it seems a little unbalanced. An old rule for gaming PCs, is you want to spend half the cost on the CPU as you spend on the GPU. The only reason I see for a gamer to jump to the X79 platform, is if they plan to run 2 or more Video Cards. If you ARE planning to run 2, I'd recommend a beefier, 1050W PSU, and swap the ASUS R9 290 to the "Sapphire Tri-X" R9 290, as it vents air out the back better.

Otherwise, I'd downgrade to an i7-4770k, a good "Z97" Motherboard, and put that $400 toward a better GPU (R9 290X, GTX 780Ti), a mechanical keyboard, a nice monitor, or just save it. That build would still crush 1080p or 2k. It could even run a 3-screen, 1080p surround setup, with some of the settings turned down. If you pick a motherboard with multi-GPU support, you can still make the changes above to drop in a second card, down the line.
GPU: NVIDIA Titan X, CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz OC'd @ 4.5GHz, Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Mem: 2x Corsair Dominator 2133MHz 8GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO, Case: Corsair Carbide 500R, PSU: Corsair TX850M, CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14, Case Fans: 4x Cooler Master Excalibur 120mm PWM, Monitors: 3x ViewSonic VX2270SMH-LED in NVIDIA Surround
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06-12-2014, 09:12 PM,
#3
RE: Build and ram question
(06-11-2014, 11:58 PM)Smokey Wrote: Below is my build. Minus the minor parts, I.E. DvD player, Arctic paste, keyboard. Anyway, I'm seeing what you guys think? Also will the RAM I have chosen work in the motherboard I'm interested in using. I tweaked your Mainstream and High end with a few interests of my own. I have between 1900-2200 budget. I'm looking to play any game I want to play at whatever resolution I choose. I haven't decided what res that is.

Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Single Unit Version Internal Solid State Drive MZ-7TE250BW by Samsung
In Stock


Azza XT 1 Watt Full Tower Gaming Cases, White CSAZ- XT1 W

Two sets- G.Skill Ares Series 8Gb (2 X 4Gb) 240-Pin Sdram Ddr3 1866 (Pc3 14900) Desktop Memory F3-1866C9D-8Gab

ASUS P9X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard by Asus

Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Quiet CPU Cooler for Intel LGA 2011 Socket with 6 Heatpipes, 140/120mm SSO Bearing PWM Fans NH-D14 SE2011

Creative Sound Blaster Z SBX PCIE Gaming Sound Card with Beamforming Microphone SB1500

EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti Superclocked, 3GB, 3072MB,GDDR5 384bit, Dual-Link DVI-I, DVI-D, HDMI,DP, SLI Ready Graphics Card (03G-P4-2883-KR) Graphics Cards 03G-P4-2883-KR by EVGA
In Stock


Patriot 16GB(2x8GB) Viper III DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) CL11 Desktop Memory With Black Mamba Heatsink

Corsair RM Series 850 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified Power Supply - CP-9020056-NA RM850 by Corsair

Intel i7-4930K LGA 2011 64 Technology Extended Memory CPU Processors BX80633I74930K
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06-12-2014, 11:18 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-12-2014, 11:58 PM by Smokey.)
#4
RE: Build and ram question
(06-12-2014, 09:12 PM)Smokey Wrote:
(06-11-2014, 11:58 PM)Smokey Wrote: Below is my build. Minus the minor parts, I.E. DvD player, Arctic paste, keyboard. Anyway, I'm seeing what you guys think? Also will the RAM I have chosen work in the motherboard I'm interested in using. I tweaked your Mainstream and High end with a few interests of my own. I have between 1900-2200 budget. I'm looking to play any game I want to play at whatever resolution I choose. I haven't decided what res that is.

Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Single Unit Version Internal Solid State Drive MZ-7TE250BW by Samsung
In Stock


Azza XT 1 Watt Full Tower Gaming Cases, White CSAZ- XT1 W

Two sets- G.Skill Ares Series 8Gb (2 X 4Gb) 240-Pin Sdram Ddr3 1866 (Pc3 14900) Desktop Memory F3-1866C9D-8Gab

ASUS P9X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard by Asus

Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Quiet CPU Cooler for Intel LGA 2011 Socket with 6 Heatpipes, 140/120mm SSO Bearing PWM Fans NH-D14 SE2011

Creative Sound Blaster Z SBX PCIE Gaming Sound Card with Beamforming Microphone SB1500

EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti Superclocked, 3GB, 3072MB,GDDR5 384bit, Dual-Link DVI-I, DVI-D, HDMI,DP, SLI Ready Graphics Card (03G-P4-2883-KR) Graphics Cards 03G-P4-2883-KR by EVGA
In Stock


Patriot 16GB(2x8GB) Viper III DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) CL11 Desktop Memory With Black Mamba Heatsink

Corsair RM Series 850 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified Power Supply - CP-9020056-NA RM850 by Corsair

Intel i7-4930K LGA 2011 64 Technology Extended Memory CPU Processors BX80633I74930K

Totally derped ont he quad channel 4 pack.

(06-12-2014, 04:35 PM)Rapajez Wrote: 1.) If you stick with the "X79" LGA 2011 Platform, you want a "Quad-Channel" pack of RAM. Four sticks of identical 4GB RAM, in one package. Otherwise, you're not using one of the main advantages of the X79 platform.

2.) I don't see storage on here, but at the budget, you absolutely want to include a good sized SSD. There's no reason to build a modern PC without one.

3.) The Noctua comes with the thermal paste applied, better than a human could do it. Smile

My main problem with this build, is it seems a little unbalanced. An old rule for gaming PCs, is you want to spend half the cost on the CPU as you spend on the GPU. The only reason I see for a gamer to jump to the X79 platform, is if they plan to run 2 or more Video Cards. If you ARE planning to run 2, I'd recommend a beefier, 1050W PSU, and swap the ASUS R9 290 to the "Sapphire Tri-X" R9 290, as it vents air out the back better.

Otherwise, I'd downgrade to an i7-4770k, a good "Z97" Motherboard, and put that $400 toward a better GPU (R9 290X, GTX 780Ti), a mechanical keyboard, a nice monitor, or just save it. That build would still crush 1080p or 2k. It could even run a 3-screen, 1080p surround setup, with some of the settings turned down. If you pick a motherboard with multi-GPU support, you can still make the changes above to drop in a second card, down the line.

Thanks again Rapajez
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06-13-2014, 10:15 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-13-2014, 10:15 AM by Rapajez.)
#5
RE: Build and ram question
(06-12-2014, 09:12 PM)Smokey Wrote: Two sets- G.Skill Ares Series 8Gb (2 X 4Gb) 240-Pin Sdram Ddr3 1866 (Pc3 14900) Desktop Memory F3-1866C9D-8Gab

Be careful. You don't want to buy 2 sets if you can help it. You want 1 set that's actually labeled "Quad Channel". The reason being slight variations in the RAM will prevent the system from actually running in quad channel. It's possible that 2 separate sets will be different enough to break it, even if they're the same model number.

I take it you're sticking with a X79 Build?
GPU: NVIDIA Titan X, CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz OC'd @ 4.5GHz, Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Mem: 2x Corsair Dominator 2133MHz 8GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO, Case: Corsair Carbide 500R, PSU: Corsair TX850M, CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14, Case Fans: 4x Cooler Master Excalibur 120mm PWM, Monitors: 3x ViewSonic VX2270SMH-LED in NVIDIA Surround
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06-13-2014, 12:39 PM,
#6
RE: Build and ram question
(06-13-2014, 10:15 AM)Rapajez Wrote:
(06-12-2014, 09:12 PM)Smokey Wrote: Two sets- G.Skill Ares Series 8Gb (2 X 4Gb) 240-Pin Sdram Ddr3 1866 (Pc3 14900) Desktop Memory F3-1866C9D-8Gab

Be careful. You don't want to buy 2 sets if you can help it. You want 1 set that's actually labeled "Quad Channel". The reason being slight variations in the RAM will prevent the system from actually running in quad channel. It's possible that 2 separate sets will be different enough to break it, even if they're the same model number.

I take it you're sticking with a X79 Build?

Yes sticking with the x79. Im interested in the 6 core. Bragging rights sure. Stubborn and dumb yah. I found a quad channel set of ram thank you for the heads up. It has been 3 years since I built a system. Also got a Ssd.
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06-13-2014, 01:35 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-13-2014, 01:37 PM by Rapajez.)
#7
RE: Build and ram question
Hey, that's why it's your PC. Smile

Many modern games (like a huge multiplayer map on Battlefield 4) are starting take take advantage of more than 4 cores, anyway. Plus you'll be in a perfect spot to drop in a 2nd 780Ti if you ever run out of GPU horsepower (maybe with a PSU bump). The original build would have been tipped so far to the CPU, that it would have gamed slower than a cheaper CPU with a faster GPU.

Moving on, are you adding an any other storage, internal/external, or is the SSD it? If so, you may want to consider one of the 1-4TB Hard Drives recommended in high-end article, bumping up your SSD to 500GB+, or getting some external storage.

What monitors are you considering? A system like this will be overkill on a common 1080p display. I'd recommend a well reviewed 27", 2560 x 1440 monitor with an IPS panel monitor, personally.
GPU: NVIDIA Titan X, CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz OC'd @ 4.5GHz, Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Mem: 2x Corsair Dominator 2133MHz 8GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO, Case: Corsair Carbide 500R, PSU: Corsair TX850M, CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14, Case Fans: 4x Cooler Master Excalibur 120mm PWM, Monitors: 3x ViewSonic VX2270SMH-LED in NVIDIA Surround
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06-13-2014, 05:27 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-13-2014, 05:31 PM by Smokey.)
#8
RE: Build and ram question
(06-13-2014, 01:35 PM)Rapajez Wrote: Hey, that's why it's your PC. Smile

Many modern games (like a huge multiplayer map on Battlefield 4) are starting take take advantage of more than 4 cores, anyway. Plus you'll be in a perfect spot to drop in a 2nd 780Ti if you ever run out of GPU horsepower (maybe with a PSU bump). The original build would have been tipped so far to the CPU, that it would have gamed slower than a cheaper CPU with a faster GPU.

Moving on, are you adding an any other storage, internal/external, or is the SSD it? If so, you may want to consider one of the 1-4TB Hard Drives recommended in high-end article, bumping up your SSD to 500GB+, or getting some external storage.

What monitors are you considering? A system like this will be overkill on a common 1080p display. I'd recommend a well reviewed 27", 2560 x 1440 monitor with an IPS panel monitor, personally.

I have an internal hard drive im going to use. That is not listed
1 tb barracuda. Was going to go 10k rpm. But already over my budget.
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06-14-2014, 12:44 PM,
#9
RE: Build and ram question
As far as monitors I knew I would need to upgrade. I did not think 27 inch. I was looking at 21-24 inch but I will look into the ips monitors.
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06-16-2014, 02:24 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-16-2014, 02:26 PM by Rapajez.)
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RE: Build and ram question
The only reason I mention that size, is once you bump up the resolution past 1080p, you usually want a bigger display to notice the difference. A good 24" will still look great. "IPS" is the type of "panel" used in some monitors. Just one of the characteristics to weigh when buying a new monitor.

The more common panel is "TN". IPS is what you see in most smart phones and tablets. It has a better viewing angle, and better color reproduction. TN is usually cheaper, and has a lower response time (1-3ms). Lower response time means less "ghosting" or lag, and can be important for fast paced games like an FPS. Personally, I haven't noticed any issues gaming on my IPS displays, so I still recommend them to other gamers.

"1 tb barracuda. Was going to go 10k rpm. But already over my budget. "

Don't worry about the speed of your HDD. All the stuff that benefits from the speed will get installed on your SSD.
GPU: NVIDIA Titan X, CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz OC'd @ 4.5GHz, Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Mem: 2x Corsair Dominator 2133MHz 8GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO, Case: Corsair Carbide 500R, PSU: Corsair TX850M, CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14, Case Fans: 4x Cooler Master Excalibur 120mm PWM, Monitors: 3x ViewSonic VX2270SMH-LED in NVIDIA Surround
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