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Upgrade PC over 6 months? Vid card first?
04-29-2014, 04:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-29-2014, 04:01 PM by Fizzbatt.)
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Upgrade PC over 6 months? Vid card first?
Hello, I built this computer roughly 10 years ago and have been thinking of starting to upgrade it. My first thought was to buy a Geforce Titan and install it into my current computer for temporary use until I can afford to upgrade the mobo/cpu/ram + SSD roughly 6 months from now. Would the bottleneck be too much or cause damage of any kind? Should I start the upgrade with a different component?
My main goal is to play Video Games on ultra without framerate/studder issues.... eventually Tongue

Basic current components:

GIGABYTE GA-X38T-DQ6 LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775
CORSAIR XMS3 8g (4 x 2gb) DDR3 1600
EVGA 640-P2-N828-A3 GeForce 8800GTS KO 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
XCLIO STABLEPOWER 1000W ATX 1000W Power Supply
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
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04-30-2014, 11:46 AM,
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RE: Upgrade PC over 6 months? Vid card first?
either situation will be a bottleneck but adding a high end card right now will still net 100% improvement. BUT, for gaming i would not waste money on a Titan(or black) over a 780ti because in gaming they are about even.

one advantage of of upgrading the cpu/motherboard now is that in 6 months you will probably see a nice price cut on the current gpu's when the new gen gpus are released.

if you go the gpu upgrade first, i would look at replacing the power supply if it is ten years old as well. generally the filter caps in a psu start going bad at about 8-10 years, and usually are only rated for a 6 year life.

good luck
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04-30-2014, 04:12 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-30-2014, 04:13 PM by Rapajez.)
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RE: Upgrade PC over 6 months? Vid card first?
What the native resolution of the monitor you'll use (or plan to use)?

If it's a common 1080p (1920x1080) monitor, a GTX 780Ti may be overkill. A 770 or 780 (non-TI) will get the job done. Of course, you can never have too much power, and it's your budget. Smile Either way, definitely avoid the "Titan" for gaming. The cheaper 780Ti actually beats the Titan in most games. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1060?vs=1072

If you can hold out, I second starting with the CPU upgrade, and waiting until late this year for the GPU. The next gen of GPU's will use a totally new manufacturing process, which usually means a big leap in performance (vs the current generation's incremental improvements). CPU's probably won't change diddly-squat in the next year, if the last few years are any indication. Again, if you're gaming at 1080p, waiting for faster GPU's is probably moot, and it's safe to pull the GPU trigger now...
GPU: NVIDIA Titan X, CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz OC'd @ 4.5GHz, Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Mem: 2x Corsair Dominator 2133MHz 8GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO, Case: Corsair Carbide 500R, PSU: Corsair TX850M, CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14, Case Fans: 4x Cooler Master Excalibur 120mm PWM, Monitors: 3x ViewSonic VX2270SMH-LED in NVIDIA Surround
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04-30-2014, 04:40 PM,
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RE: Upgrade PC over 6 months? Vid card first?
(04-30-2014, 04:12 PM)Rapajez Wrote: What the native resolution of the monitor you'll use (or plan to use)?

If it's a common 1080p (1920x1080) monitor, a GTX 780Ti may be overkill. A 770 or 780 (non-TI) will get the job done. Of course, you can never have too much power, and it's your budget. Smile Either way, definitely avoid the "Titan" for gaming. The cheaper 780Ti actually beats the Titan in most games. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1060?vs=1072

If you can hold out, I second starting with the CPU upgrade, and waiting until late this year for the GPU. The next gen of GPU's will use a totally new manufacturing process, which usually means a big leap in performance (vs the current generation's incremental improvements). CPU's probably won't change diddly-squat in the next year, if the last few years are any indication. Again, if you're gaming at 1080p, waiting for faster GPU's is probably moot, and it's safe to pull the GPU trigger now...

i agree with the 780(should have mentioned that), unless you are trying to push crysis 3 on ultra at 1080p to the 60fps mark. but even the 780 will run about 40fps at those settings at 1080p, just enough for smooth gameplay and save about 250 bucks.
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05-05-2014, 12:39 PM,
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RE: Upgrade PC over 6 months? Vid card first?
Actually, now that the prices have settled, a R9 290 may be a better bet. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6814202080 (comes with 3 free games right now)

Again, even though you'll have to wait a little longer for the benefits, I'd still recommend doing CPU first, even though you won't see the benefits right away.
GPU: NVIDIA Titan X, CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz OC'd @ 4.5GHz, Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Mem: 2x Corsair Dominator 2133MHz 8GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO, Case: Corsair Carbide 500R, PSU: Corsair TX850M, CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14, Case Fans: 4x Cooler Master Excalibur 120mm PWM, Monitors: 3x ViewSonic VX2270SMH-LED in NVIDIA Surround
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05-05-2014, 03:01 PM,
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RE: Upgrade PC over 6 months? Vid card first?
The R9 will result in more heat than a 780TI.
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 CPU: Intel Core i7 3930K CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 GPU: EVGA GTX 650 2GB SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB HDDs: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB and Western Digital VelociRaptor 500 GB Motherboard: Asus P9X79 Pro RAM: 8x8GB (64GB) G. Skill Ripjaws Z 1600MHz Optical Drives: two Asus DRWB1ST PSU: Seasonic X650 80+ Gold Keyboard: Das Keyboard Professional S Mouse: Logitech Performance MX Tablet: Logitech T650 Monitors: NEC P241W and NEC PA241W Speakers: Bose Companion 3 Operating System: Windows 8 Pro 64 bit
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05-06-2014, 02:42 PM,
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RE: Upgrade PC over 6 months? Vid card first?
Have you checked out the aftermarket model I linked? I know the original reference R9's had heat issues, but that's not the case here. This one has a very effective aftermarket cooler, that dumps most of the heat out the rear of the case.This is the model MathieuB recommends for dual-GPU setups in his last article (and that was when it costs $200 more).

Plus the R9 290 is 1/2 the price of the 780Ti. Wink It should be plenty of power for a single 1080p display.
GPU: NVIDIA Titan X, CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz OC'd @ 4.5GHz, Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Mem: 2x Corsair Dominator 2133MHz 8GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO, Case: Corsair Carbide 500R, PSU: Corsair TX850M, CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14, Case Fans: 4x Cooler Master Excalibur 120mm PWM, Monitors: 3x ViewSonic VX2270SMH-LED in NVIDIA Surround
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