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Out of Practice - Need a little advice
12-16-2013, 05:44 PM,
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Out of Practice - Need a little advice
It's been many years since I have been up to speed on specs for rigs. I'm still plugging away on my old XP Pro - 2Gm Ram and an 8800GTX 512 card. I am looking at building a level 1 rig as cost conscious as I can and the first few questions I could use advice on are as follows:

Microcenter seems to offer som pretty attractive CPU/MB combos here:
http://www.microcenter.com/site/products...ndles.aspx
Which FX6300 combo to choose?


Graphics card: HD7850 OC 1gb vs GTX650TI 2Gb (std and boost)
XFX - Ultra OC Radeon 7850 1GB $135
VS. Either
NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB $160
Galaxy - GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB $165

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
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12-16-2013, 06:52 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-16-2013, 06:56 PM by Rapajez.)
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RE: Out of Practice - Need a little advice
What's your monitor resolution, and what games and apps will you be playing on this?

Either way, you probably want the recommended 7850 _2GB_ in the article. As it beats the 650 Ti in most games and is slightly cheaper. Make sure you get a 2GB model though, as 1GB is not going to be very future proof.
GPU: NVIDIA Titan X, CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz OC'd @ 4.5GHz, Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Mem: 2x Corsair Dominator 2133MHz 8GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO, Case: Corsair Carbide 500R, PSU: Corsair TX850M, CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14, Case Fans: 4x Cooler Master Excalibur 120mm PWM, Monitors: 3x ViewSonic VX2270SMH-LED in NVIDIA Surround
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12-16-2013, 07:27 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-16-2013, 09:24 PM by gforce.)
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RE: Out of Practice - Need a little advice
Thanks for the input. I have a samsung syncmaster2333 that I run at 1680x1050
The native is higher buy this resolution is easier for me to do work on. As far as games, nothing too intense. I used to play lord of the rings online and skyrim... Stuff like that. With my current relic it was laggy on raids but otherwise acceptable. Also I have not found a 2gb 7850 under 190 that is in stock.

I'm curious about the CPU combos I posted the 6350 or 6100 with the asus or GB board for $129 and $109 respectively.
Also can get a single stick 8gb patriot viper black for $59 ... http://www.patriotmemory.com/product/det...249&type=1
Not sure how they compare to the ripsaws but the single mod is nice to leave room for future mem upgrade
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12-17-2013, 04:01 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-17-2013, 04:05 PM by Rapajez.)
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RE: Out of Practice - Need a little advice
(12-16-2013, 07:27 PM)gforce Wrote: I have a samsung syncmaster2333 that I run at 1680x1050
The native is higher buy this resolution is easier for me to do work on.

What is the native resolution? The goal of a good gaming build is to run the desired games at the desired detail level at the _native_ resolution of the monitor. Using a non-native resolution means the monitor has to down-convert and squish pixels around and what-not. It will result in a blurry, uglier picture. If you find that the GUI is too tiny at the native resolution, most games have a UI scale or "button-size" you can increase. Windows also has an option to make the icons and text larger if you find those are too small.

You also try to design your build to run your games at 60 FPS, or 30 FPS at a minimum. Anything higher is wasted (as most monitors only display 60FPS) and anything lower will look choppy. Something in the $200 range with 2GB of VRAM should get the job done for your monitor.

(12-16-2013, 07:27 PM)gforce Wrote: Also I have not found a 2gb 7850 under 190 that is in stock.

Amazon has some from 3rd party vendors. You can also go with a 7870 2GB, or if you really want to future proof, a R9 270X. Worst-case, the 560ti 2GB will get the job done, with some settings turned down. From the latest Video Card Article:

Quote:"The Radeon HD 7850 2GB offers higher performance, consumes less power and emits less noise versus the Geforce GTX 650 Ti Boost. The Radeon HD 7850 2GB simply is the logical recommendation at this price point. Unless you can find the Geforce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB for $15 less than the Radeon HD 7850 2GB, you have no reason to pick the GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB over the Radeon HD 7850 2GB. - See more at: http://www.hardware-revolution.com/the-b...orsqU.dpuf"

Either way, Skyrim is pretty demanding on the GPU memory, especially if you play with the high-resolution texture mod (which you would want to if you're on a new gaming PC :p ). That's why I'd still stick with a 2GB card.

I'd check the latest Budget Article as it lists a bunch of decent mobo alternatives. I don't think you want anything slower than the FX 6300 though, for a modern PC.

As for memory, you'll get better performance out of a dual channel kit, with 2 sticks of identical RAM. The mobo can access both DIMMs at the same time. RAM speed won't make a giant difference in gaming, but every little bit will count.
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