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Building new Gaming/Streaming PC
11-26-2013, 08:58 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-26-2013, 09:03 AM by Timefiller.)
#1
Building new Gaming/Streaming PC
Well, I haven't built a pc in about 8 years so I'm pretty out of the loop on current hardware.

Also, I'm planning on getting into Streaming.
I'm not sure how much of a difference that makes when deciding on a build?

I would like to be able to play any already released games on ultra quality and hopefully most into the next year or 2 without having to worry about upgrading too much.

I'm sure price plays the biggest factor of course, So I'll say 800-2000$ price range. If you could also include in the list/price a monitor & a Headset. EDIT: And a gamepad!

The best example of a game I plan on playing would probably Star Citizen. Since it runs on cry3, I'm sure its good for bench-marking my build?

Here is a "predicted" System Requirements for Star Citizen:

Core i5-2500S 2.7GHz
Phenom II X6 1045T
GeForce GTX 680
Radeon HD 7970
12 GB GD RAM
Win 7 64
DX 11
25 GB


I need to run some errands, but I will be back later on today. Thanks for your help Smile

EDIT: I was looking at the tier Lists but wasn't sure if they would be fine while streaming as well.
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11-26-2013, 10:25 AM,
#2
RE: Building new Gaming/Streaming PC
Depends on what exactly you mean by "Streaming". Do you mean streaming games to other systems, like what Steam Box is proposing, or the NVIDIA Shield? Or are you talking about streaming media to other devices in your home?

Either way, that's more dependent on your network hardware, like your router, etc, and whether the devices you're streaming to will be directly connected or connected via WiFi.

As for the rest of your build, what type of monitor are you looking for? Or how much of your budget are you willing to allocate to the monitor? The reason I ask, is a typical 1080p monitor will not require more than $800 in hardware to max out, while an 2560x1600 display, or 3-monitor-surround setup will require more.
GPU: NVIDIA Titan X, CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz OC'd @ 4.5GHz, Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Mem: 2x Corsair Dominator 2133MHz 8GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO, Case: Corsair Carbide 500R, PSU: Corsair TX850M, CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14, Case Fans: 4x Cooler Master Excalibur 120mm PWM, Monitors: 3x ViewSonic VX2270SMH-LED in NVIDIA Surround
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11-26-2013, 12:31 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-26-2013, 12:36 PM by Brandonsr.)
#3
RE: Building new Gaming/Streaming PC
I think he is talking about streaming games to a website like twitch, so people can watch live gameplay footage.

Since you mentioned Star Citizen I would look into tier 7 for 1080p gaming. The game isn't even out yet, but they keep talking about how demanding it will be.


Tier 7 has pretty much the best video card on the market. Upgrading to the i7-4770k might also be beneficial to streaming.
Case: Corsair Carbide Air 540 CPU: i5 3570K Cooler: Water Loop Motherboard: ASrock Extreme 3 Gen 3 Z68
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance 8gb] Video Card: EVGA GTX 1070 FE Power Supply: Corsair TX 750w
Storage:
Samsung 840 120gb
Monitor:
Acer S231HLbid 23" Mouse: RAZER DeathAdder 3.5G Keyboard: Ducky DK9008G2 PRO MX Cherry Blue
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11-26-2013, 01:25 PM,
#4
RE: Building new Gaming/Streaming PC
Yikes, Tier 7 for 1080p? You think so? Even with the built in streaming "shadowplay" NVIDIA added to the latest GPUs?
GPU: NVIDIA Titan X, CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz OC'd @ 4.5GHz, Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Mem: 2x Corsair Dominator 2133MHz 8GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO, Case: Corsair Carbide 500R, PSU: Corsair TX850M, CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14, Case Fans: 4x Cooler Master Excalibur 120mm PWM, Monitors: 3x ViewSonic VX2270SMH-LED in NVIDIA Surround
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11-26-2013, 02:29 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-26-2013, 02:30 PM by MathieuB.)
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RE: Building new Gaming/Streaming PC
(11-26-2013, 01:25 PM)Rapajez Wrote: Yikes, Tier 7 for 1080p? You think so? Even with the built in streaming "shadowplay" NVIDIA added to the latest GPUs?

Consider how demanding the game will be. Not all games will run maxed out at 1080p on mainstream video cards.

That and the next generation of games that are starting to come out with the launch of the Xbox One and PS4 are far more demanding than what we've seen so far.

Star Citizen is a great example of that. If the predicted system requirements predict requiring a GeForce GTX 680 or a Radeon HD 7970, then going with a GTX 780 Ti is probably wise if you want all the eye candy with a playable frame rate.

Also keep in mind that many buyers/builders would like their PC to be able to run games at 1080p maxed out for a year or two at least. A mainstream video card might be able to do that with slightly older games right now, but it's going to struggle with newer, more demanding games, in a year or two. So going with higher-end hardware makes sense if you want to be future-proof.
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11-26-2013, 03:56 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-26-2013, 04:11 PM by Timefiller.)
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RE: Building new Gaming/Streaming PC
Hey, back from my errands.

Thanks for the replies.

I should have been more clear, I did in fact mean I would be streaming games via Twitch.tv.

And now I'll be looking at tier 7 & 8 a bit more closely and figure out what I can do.

If I have any more questions I'll be sure to head back here. Smile

Thanks again.

(11-26-2013, 10:25 AM)Rapajez Wrote: As for the rest of your build, what type of monitor are you looking for? Or how much of your budget are you willing to allocate to the monitor? The reason I ask, is a typical 1080p monitor will not require more than $800 in hardware to max out, while an 2560x1600 display, or 3-monitor-surround setup will require more.

I plan on using a 2 monitor set-up, but only 1 will be used for gaming. 2nd monitor will be for interacting with the Streaming Dashboard and whatever I dont want shown on my stream.
Im currently using this: ASUS 21.5"

It might actually be good enough still? not sure I got it in 2011 to use for my ps3 while I was out of state working and it has replaced my old Samsung monitor that died after 6 years.

Thanks for your help.
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11-26-2013, 04:48 PM,
#7
RE: Building new Gaming/Streaming PC
If you're happy with your monitor, no reason to change it. It's still perfectly good in my opinion.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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11-26-2013, 06:04 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-27-2013, 10:02 AM by PwnBroker.)
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RE: Building new Gaming/Streaming PC
how are you gonna encode your stream, all software or with a capture card and software?

are you gonna use something like XSplit, OBS, etc?

as far as the game, i have used the CE3 sdk quit a bit and after playing around Crysis 3, i would def upgrade to the 4core/8 thread cpu, but it all depends on how you plan on streaming.
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11-26-2013, 06:10 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-26-2013, 06:11 PM by Timefiller.)
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RE: Building new Gaming/Streaming PC
(11-26-2013, 04:48 PM)MathieuB Wrote: If you're happy with your monitor, no reason to change it. It's still perfectly good in my opinion.

Okay, sounds good. Ill keep using it then. And put that money towards the build. Smile thanks

(11-26-2013, 06:04 PM)PwnBroker Wrote: how are you gonna render your stream, all software or with a capture card and software?

are you gonna use something like XSplit, OBS, etc?

as far as the game, i have used the CE3 sdk quit a bit and after playing around Crysis 3, i would def upgrade to the 4core/8 thread cpu, but it all depends on how you plan on streaming.

Ill be using OBS
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11-27-2013, 05:56 PM,
#10
RE: Building new Gaming/Streaming PC
(11-26-2013, 06:10 PM)Timefiller Wrote:
(11-26-2013, 04:48 PM)MathieuB Wrote: If you're happy with your monitor, no reason to change it. It's still perfectly good in my opinion.

Okay, sounds good. Ill keep using it then. And put that money towards the build. Smile thanks

(11-26-2013, 06:04 PM)PwnBroker Wrote: how are you gonna render your stream, all software or with a capture card and software?

are you gonna use something like XSplit, OBS, etc?

as far as the game, i have used the CE3 sdk quit a bit and after playing around Crysis 3, i would def upgrade to the 4core/8 thread cpu, but it all depends on how you plan on streaming.

Ill be using OBS

with what you want to do i would start at tier 6. if streaming at 720p the i5 will work, but not at 1080p for the demanding games. it just doesnt have enough cpu overhead leftover. you might be able to run 1080p with quick sync, but the quality is sub par as compared to x264 encoding and some folks seem to get it to work and some do not. 1080p streaming is where you will more than likely need to upgrade the cpu to the i7 in order to have enough cpu overhead to run the game plus encoding the stream.

if star citizen is anything like crysis 3 you could expect the tier 6 gpu to net around 53 fps on ultra settings+fxaa. the tier 5 gpu would be around 40 fps.

so tier 6 with cpu upgrade to the i7 chip would be a good place to start.

good luck
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