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Have done lots of research, but still questions
11-24-2012, 05:59 AM,
#1
Have done lots of research, but still questions
Hey everyone, long time reader, first time poster. I have read countless threads in this forum and been researching for months for my new computer build. If you dont mind the intro, please read on, otherwise skip to the next paragraph Smile. I bought a gateway from best buy about 6 years ago, pretty big MMO, RTS gamer. Current important specs were AMD 5000+ X2, 9600GT, 4GB ram, Vista 32bit. My hardrive finally crashed a couple of weeks ago and with the Black friday deals I have decided to order a few parts now and the rest over the next 1-2 months.

First of all I will say that I don't need a super high end machine as my main games are SWTOR, SC2, Diablo 3. Budget is partially an issue, but since im spreading it out I will make it work. Most important is best parts for dollar spent. I'm wanting to build a tier 2/3 at a better price than what is recommended using the same quality parts. Total Budget around 700 max. I will not be overclocking anything as I dont know enough about it and my games wont require it. I am wanting long term dependability.

Here is my thoughts and will have a few questions throughout.
Case: Corsair 400R for 79.99 before (20$ MIR) or Antec 300 44.99 before (15$ MIR)

Unsure of MOBO : seeing several z77 for decent prices on newegg right now. Havent seen any z75 on sale. Dont know about other MOBO's (this is my biggest unsure area)

CPU: wanting i5 3550. Quad Core for future games/application usage. Better recommendation for the money?)

RAM: Just ordered G. SKILL 8 GB 2x4 (1600) for 24.99 (couldn't pass that up)

HDD: Just ordered WD Caviar blue 500GB 7200RPM 64 MB CACHE (only 64$ on Newegg black friday!)

GPU: will probably be last purchase and I'll just go for the best deal I can find. Anything will be better than my old 9600 GT right? haha

DVD/CD - Can I use my old one from the Gateway? I don't have any games on disc, not sure what I need a new one for unless old one is not compatible?

Power supply? how many Watts would I need? Going to get an 80 Plus certified of the recommended brand, but don't want to overkill if I don't have to.

My monitor is an LG LCD 21" i think $199 from walmart. Ill be getting Win7 64 bit. Usually play at 1920 X 1080 (I think) max allowed. generally at medium to low settings.

Suggestions, comments, question? did I leave anything out?
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11-24-2012, 03:28 PM,
#2
Have done lots of research, but still questions
Case: a matter of preference as both make good cases. The Corsair is probably the one I would choose of the two.

Motherboard: the AsRock Z77 extreme4 is marked down to $105 at Newegg and is what I would recommend.

CPU: the i5 3550 is the best one in its price range.

GPU: you can find many better than the one you have for a low budget. Any in the build tiers would work.

PSU: the video card you get will have the most influence on the size of the PSU. You can look at the builds and get the PSU best size when you see the video card you want in the build. I really think 450 to 550 watts is your range if the video card isn't really power hungry. Seasonic and Corsair make good power supplies.

DVD/CD: if your drives are IDE, you may mind modern motherboards are only SATA. You can get a new SATA drive for no more than $20.

Heat sink: if noise matters, you may want an after market heat sink. You don't need to spend much here since you are not overclocking. The stock intel cooler is fine too, but may make more noise.
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 CPU: Intel Core i7 3930K CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 GPU: EVGA GTX 650 2GB SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB HDDs: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB and Western Digital VelociRaptor 500 GB Motherboard: Asus P9X79 Pro RAM: 8x8GB (64GB) G. Skill Ripjaws Z 1600MHz Optical Drives: two Asus DRWB1ST PSU: Seasonic X650 80+ Gold Keyboard: Das Keyboard Professional S Mouse: Logitech Performance MX Tablet: Logitech T650 Monitors: NEC P241W and NEC PA241W Speakers: Bose Companion 3 Operating System: Windows 8 Pro 64 bit
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11-27-2012, 08:26 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-27-2012, 08:26 AM by Brian517.)
#3
RE: Have done lots of research, but still questions
Thanks for the quick response!! I just ordered the corsair 400r
My hard drive came in and it works on my old computer so I at least have something until my new one is built. I do have another question though. Looking at motherboards and wondering if I need one as expensive as the one you recommended. I won't be overclocking and am definitely going with the i5 3550. Of I found a board at 75$ or so that's was a z77 am I losing that much? I'm trying to avoid overkill in prices and parts with functions or perks that I will never use. Smile.

Thanks for the quick response!! I just ordered the corsair 400r
My hard drive came in and it works on my old computer so I at least have something until my new one is built. I do have another question though. Looking at motherboards and wondering if I need one as expensive as the one you recommended. I won't be overclocking and am definitely going with the i5 3550. Of I found a board at 75$ or so that's was a z77 am I losing that much? I'm trying to avoid overkill in prices and parts with functions or perks that I will never use. Smile.
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11-27-2012, 11:12 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-27-2012, 11:21 AM by Brian517.)
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RE: Have done lots of research, but still questions
(11-27-2012, 08:26 AM)Brian517 Wrote: Thanks for the quick response!! I just ordered the corsair 400r
My hard drive came in and it works on my old computer so I at least have something until my new one is built. I do have another question though. Looking at motherboards and wondering if I need one as expensive as the one you recommended. I won't be overclocking and am definitely going with the i5 3550. Of I found a board at 75$ or so that's was a z77 am I losing that much? I'm trying to avoid overkill in prices and parts with functions or perks that I will never use. Smile.

Thanks for the quick response!! I just ordered the corsair 400r
My hard drive came in and it works on my old computer so I at least have something until my new one is built. I do have another question though. Looking at motherboards and wondering if I need one as expensive as the one you recommended. I won't be overclocking and am definitely going with the i5 3550. Of I found a board at 75$ or so that's was a z77 am I losing that much? I'm trying to avoid overkill in prices and parts with functions or perks that I will never use. Smile.

Sorry about the double post. That was from my phone and before I got my OS installed on my new hard drive. I'm up and running now and everything went flawless. Found out I had a bad HDD AND 1 stick of RAM went bye bye.

Anywho. I have done some more research on MOBO's and I think I know the best way to simplify what I am needing to know.

I am going to run the i5 -3550.
8 GB DDR3 1600 MHZ RAM
450-550W PSU
Corsair 400R
The best GPU around 150$ Radeon HD 6850 or in that area.
Will add an SSD at a later date
Basic DVD/CD RW drive
I have WD blue 7200RPM/64MB Cache HDD

I think this setup will last for years to come.

I want to purchase the most cost efficient motherboard with the features that support what I am purchasing. I will not be overlocking anything. I have read in other places that I just need the MOBO that has the features to support what I am going to be putting on. Therefore I am asking for the minimum price. but quality MOBO to suit my needs. Thanks in advance.
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11-27-2012, 06:21 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-27-2012, 06:21 PM by mwhals.)
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Have done lots of research, but still questions
Try the following motherboard. You won't get a Z75 or Z77 board for much less.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...67296&SID=
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 CPU: Intel Core i7 3930K CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 GPU: EVGA GTX 650 2GB SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB HDDs: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB and Western Digital VelociRaptor 500 GB Motherboard: Asus P9X79 Pro RAM: 8x8GB (64GB) G. Skill Ripjaws Z 1600MHz Optical Drives: two Asus DRWB1ST PSU: Seasonic X650 80+ Gold Keyboard: Das Keyboard Professional S Mouse: Logitech Performance MX Tablet: Logitech T650 Monitors: NEC P241W and NEC PA241W Speakers: Bose Companion 3 Operating System: Windows 8 Pro 64 bit
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12-04-2012, 11:57 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-04-2012, 12:03 PM by Final692.)
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RE: Have done lots of research, but still questions
Check tigerdirect for a biostar TZ77EX3 something along those lines which is on sale for like 75 bucks after rebate. Also the 400r has little brothers 300r and 200r which i find to be overall more likeable in terms of price and what u get. As for GPU, I believe the 650 ti is around that price range and is a little weaker than the 7850.

EDIT: nvm, the 650 ti is considerably weaker than the 7850. however, according to anandtech, the 650 ti is still an option for people who are adamant in not going over $150. otherwise if u pay an extra like 20 bucks u could move up to a 7850.
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12-04-2012, 04:22 PM,
#7
RE: Have done lots of research, but still questions
Thanks for the help guys....

So far I have my HDD, Case (400R...ITS BIG!), RAM

Gonna be after Christmas before I order the rest (wife and kid come first).

I did more research on MOBO's and I am confident that I will make the right choice. Thanks again for those that posted...

Brian
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12-04-2012, 05:09 PM,
#8
RE: Have done lots of research, but still questions
Keep in mind that the updates to the Mainstream and Budget Gaming PCs will be published this week, so they should provide you with good info for your build.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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12-06-2012, 07:58 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-06-2012, 07:59 AM by Brian517.)
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RE: Have done lots of research, but still questions
Yes Mathieu, I just got the email with the updates! Thank you! Im starting to think I should have gotten the 300R case instead of the 400R considering that the MOBO's you recommend do not have a USB 3.0 Header. However, it was on sale for only 10$ more than the 300R and I get an extra fan. Smile

It looks like it is definitely going to be the end of January or so before I start ordering the rest of the parts. (wife is going $$ crazy on christmas!) I'm pretty excited about the whole process, but I know my luck and I'm afraid I am going to get several DOA parts. (always happens to me with everything else in my life) HAHA!!!

Thanks again for all you and your friends do here on this website. I check it daily for updates!

Sincerely,

Brian
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12-06-2012, 02:21 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-06-2012, 02:22 PM by Brandonsr.)
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RE: Have done lots of research, but still questions
Good luck man! I cant wait to see some pictures of the final build. Smile
Case: Corsair Carbide Air 540 CPU: i5 3570K Cooler: Water Loop Motherboard: ASrock Extreme 3 Gen 3 Z68
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance 8gb] Video Card: EVGA GTX 1070 FE Power Supply: Corsair TX 750w
Storage:
Samsung 840 120gb
Monitor:
Acer S231HLbid 23" Mouse: RAZER DeathAdder 3.5G Keyboard: Ducky DK9008G2 PRO MX Cherry Blue
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