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First build check up
08-09-2012, 07:43 PM,
#1
First build check up
Anyway I have saved $6000 (I realize this should more then cover the rig I got, the leftovers if for dem gamez) so I figure I might as well go with the Tier 12 gaming PC.

thing is I am from Canada so when I follow the newegg.com links it redirects me to newegg canadas homepage.

Some notes: I wanna update the ram to the recommended 32 gig alternative. I have a 25" HP 2509b monitor already (thinking about purchasing another monitor).

Anyway here are the newegg Canada links to the items in tier 12 If someone could check to make sure I'm good to go it would be appreciated:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...6813157289 ASRock X79 Extreme6 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...6819116492 Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...6814130771
EVGA SuperClocked+ 02G-P4-2684-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...600%201.5v
G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (8 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q2-32GBZL

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...0III%20SSD
SanDisk Extreme SDSSDX-480G-G25 2.5" 480GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...6822152245 SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 ST2000DL004 2TB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...6827118067
Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner, Bulk Package 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model AD-7280S-0B - OEM

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...6811147157 Rosewill BLACKHAWK-ULTRA Gaming Super Tower Computer Case, support up to HPTX, come with Eight Fans,Top HDD docking

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...6817151109 SeaSonic X-1250 1250W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...U%20Cooler
Phanteks PH-TC14PE 140mm UFB (Updraft Floating Balance) CPU Cooler

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...6811995016 Sunbeam RHK-EX-BA Rheobus-Extreme Fan Controller Panel (could not find fan controller on newegg.ca unless this one was it lolz)

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...6829132052 ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 Interface Gaming Audio Card

Anyway thanks for the pare of eyes!
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08-10-2012, 02:10 AM,
#2
RE: First build check up
Intimidating rig Tongue.

Those Ripjaws look fairly high and with that Phanteks it could be a narrow fit. G.Skill has great customer service from what I've read.

You're going for the Sandisk ssd. If you need the space, then go for it. If you can do with less space and more speed I'd say put two of these in RAID 0 and have more speed. I say this because going for 32gb ram and the Core i7 makes the Sandisk struggle to keep up Tongue. Also, 2x Plextor M3 Pro is cheaper than the Sandisk. Can't seem to find the 256gb Plextor M3 Pro on NewEgg.ca... It does exist however.

No other comments on that setup!
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08-10-2012, 11:35 AM,
#3
RE: First build check up
I was gonna say if you want the best SSD to go with the Samsung 830 series, but it appears that newegg.ca doesn't have it which is kind of weird. The Plextor is also considered to be about as good as samsung and comes with a 5 year warranty but costs a bit more. Well at least in the US it comes with a 5 year warranty but it doesn't appear to say that on newegg.ca for Canada.
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08-10-2012, 03:13 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-10-2012, 03:23 PM by Sandman666.)
#4
RE: First build check up
Thanks for the info!
some more questions:

1. would it be worth it performance wise and sound wise to get video card cooling via the recommended, ARCTIC COOLING ACCEL-X3 Fluid Dynamic VGA Cooler?

2. cables and things I have an HDMI cable but as this will be my first build should I get extra sata cables and things for the innards

3. GTX 690 vs 680 performance; I know its been discussed but some games (Skyrim which I plan to mod the shit out of) don't support SLI without messing with the ini files.

Sidenote I'm googeling more about the SSD stuff you guys suggested thanks for the tips!
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08-10-2012, 08:39 PM,
#5
RE: First build check up
(08-10-2012, 02:10 AM)Konvikt Wrote: If you can do with less space and more speed I'd say put two of these in RAID 0 and have more speed.

Putting SSDs in RAID 0 is generally a bad idea. It might not be faster, as having SSDs in RAID prevents you from using TRIM, so the SSD might actually be slower. Some SSDs (such as the Crucial m4) actually must never be used in RAID unless you want your computer to be so slow to be unusable. The Plextor is OK for RAID but I'd avoid it unless you need the capacity. Just go for the 512GB version.

(08-10-2012, 03:13 PM)Sandman666 Wrote: Thanks for the info!
some more questions:

1. would it be worth it performance wise and sound wise to get video card cooling via the recommended, ARCTIC COOLING ACCEL-X3 Fluid Dynamic VGA Cooler?

2. cables and things I have an HDMI cable but as this will be my first build should I get extra sata cables and things for the innards

3. GTX 690 vs 680 performance; I know its been discussed but some games (Skyrim which I plan to mod the shit out of) don't support SLI without messing with the ini files.

Sidenote I'm googeling more about the SSD stuff you guys suggested thanks for the tips!

1. I personally think it is, but then again I have my computer on my desk and I'm very sensitive to noise. If you want to overclock your GPU, you'll also be able to overclock better as the aftermaket GPU cooler will really keep the temperature down.

2. You're fine, the motherboard comes with SATA cables.

3. The GTX 690 is marginally slower than the GTX 680 SLI, but it consumes way less power as the GPUs are binned and slightly underclocked. The GTX 690 would be overkill if you don't get a second monitor though.
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K CPU Cooler: Thermalright Silver Arrow CPU TIM: Thermalright Chill Factor III GPU: Sapphire Radeon 6970 VGA Cooler: Arctic Cooling Accelero Xtreme Plus SSD: Crucial M4 256GB HDD: Samsung F3 1TB Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 RAM: 4x4GB (16GB) Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz Optical Drive: ASUS 24X PSU: 550W Kingwin Lazer 80 Plus Platinum Fan Controller: Scythe Kaze Q12 Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX Keyboard: Rosewill RK-9000 Cherry MX Blue Mouse: Logitech G500 Monitor: Sceptre 27"
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08-11-2012, 10:43 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-11-2012, 10:50 PM by Sandman666.)
#6
RE: First build check up
So I've been reading more about SSD's and an SSD compatible with Trim is probably the better choice than maintaining two SSDs in RAID 0, especially since I am a newb at this computer building thing.

Now I guess I got to put the nail in the coffin on the SSD I should pick: The Plextor 512 GB version, Samsung 830 series or the recommended tier 12 SanDisk Extreme 480 GB.

Anyway I waded through the AnandTech SSD articles linked from the HR link and basic came out of the articles with the mindset Trim=good Raid=for those with better than moderate tech experience. Also the writer kept showing a correlation between decreased SSD size in GB's and fast performance. Moral of the story is I am stuck on the SSD issue.

I bring up the speed thing from the AnandTech article mainly because I play a lot of MMO's already and my current crap computer's CPU usage goes insane and slows an already slow internet to a crawl(1.3 mb/s dl speed, .73 mb/s upload speed adv and it frequently goes lower). Now I realize a new computer won't fix my internet problem but an overall performance boost would have its benefits.

Another issue pointed out by Konvikt is the G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB I linked may be a little to close to the Phanteks cooler. Anyway those where recommended as alts in the HR High end gaming pc article. Sooo its not like I don't have faith in this sites builds buttt a little reassurance would be nice before I drop some coin on this $4000+- build.

So thanks for all your help and patience fourm members and HR staff. I've posted this poorly written response after spending the past several hours reading about motherboards and SSD's; lol oh well at least this whole thing is going to be a learning experience!
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08-11-2012, 10:54 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-11-2012, 10:54 PM by Brian.)
#7
RE: First build check up
(08-11-2012, 10:43 PM)Sandman666 Wrote: So I've been reading more about SSD's and an SSD compatible with Trim is probably the better choice than maintaining two SSDs in RAID 0, especially since I am a newb at this computer building thing.

Now I guess I got to put the nail in the coffin on the SSD I should pick: The Plextor 512 GB version, Samsung 830 series or the recommended tier 12 SanDisk Extreme 480 GB.

Anyway I waded through the AnandTech SSD articles linked from the HR link and basic came out of the articles with the mindset Trim=good Raid=for those with better than moderate tech experience. Also the writer kept showing a correlation between decreased SSD size in GB's and fast performance. Moral of the story is I am stuck on the SSD issue.

Another issue pointed out by Konvikt is the G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB I linked may be a little to close to the Phanteks cooler. Anyway those where recommended as alts in the HR High end gaming pc article. Sooo its not like I don't have faith in this sites builds buttt a little reassurance would be nice before I drop some coin on this $4000+- build.

So thanks for all your help and patience fourm members and HR staff. I've posted this poorly written response after spending the past several hours reading about motherboards and SSD's; lol oh well at least this whole thing is going to be a learning experience!

Honestly you can't go wrong with either the Samsung 830 or the Plextor M3 Pro. I'd get the cheaper one.

The Ripjaws Z (same height as Ripjaws X or normal Ripjaws) should clear the Phanteks as the heatspreaders are short.
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08-12-2012, 05:11 AM,
#8
RE: First build check up
(08-10-2012, 08:39 PM)Brian Wrote:
(08-10-2012, 02:10 AM)Konvikt Wrote: If you can do with less space and more speed I'd say put two of these in RAID 0 and have more speed.

Putting SSDs in RAID 0 is generally a bad idea. It might not be faster, as having SSDs in RAID prevents you from using TRIM, so the SSD might actually be slower. Some SSDs (such as the Crucial m4) actually must never be used in RAID unless you want your computer to be so slow to be unusable. The Plextor is OK for RAID but I'd avoid it unless you need the capacity. Just go for the 512GB version.

Appearantly I've been looking at the wrong ASRock mobo. I had the Extreme11 in mind which has an onboard LSI SAS 2308 PCIe 3.0 Controller. Hardware RAID. Purely my bad. Apart from that, striking similarities there Tongue.

The Extreme11 is pretty expensive though. Partly because of that controller.

Go with 1 big SSD and I'd say get the Samsung 830 or a big Plextor M3 Pro. Preferrably 512. SanDisk is a no-go for me personally.
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08-12-2012, 11:59 AM,
#9
RE: First build check up
good good good.

soo one more question/feedback before I wrap up this shindig:

Now I mentioned I already have one monitor and it is a HP Pavilion 2509b Monitor specifications here: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/Tec...=c02704366

now its response time is 3 ms Gray-to-Gray, now my cousin in IT tells me that if the response time is measured in Gray-to-Gray multiply it by 3 to get the true response time which is about 9ms which would not be the greatest.

Anyway I'm looking for a good gaming monitor from 21"-27" preferably under $500. Sidenote: I am not huge into the 3D gaming, I more or less want good HD picture for game

How is this: http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VH236H-23-Inc..._1_rdssss0

Anyways it was recommend by ars technica back in 2010 and since then the price has gone down so it might be nice for a duo or tri screen set-up.

The recommended ASUS VG236H 23″ 2ms 120Hz 1920 x 1080 Glossy Nvidia 3D Vision included glasses from "best monitors for your money page" looks kinda cool to but like I said earlier 3D is more a nice extra for me then anything.

So any thoughts/feedback, should I single screen, duo screen, triple screen, quad screen the sucker? do you got any suggestions or concerns over an HD monitor. 3D vs 2D...I'm digressing.

Feedback would be nice Thanks!
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08-12-2012, 12:15 PM,
#10
RE: First build check up
If you want 3 monitors go with this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002453...B002453K5G
If you want single monitor with no 3D: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005NM8...B005NM8PB6
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