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Budget Gaming PC parts choices
11-28-2010, 12:02 PM,
#11
RE: Budget Gaming PC parts choices
Looks good. Any SATA 3Gb/s drive would be compatible. Here's what I recommend though:

320GB Capacity - $43
500GB Capacity - $55
1TB Capacity - $70
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11-28-2010, 12:11 PM,
#12
RE: Budget Gaming PC parts choices
Regarding pins: Andrew is on the spot, 715, 720, 740 and the like are CPU models numbers, nothing to do with pins count. As long as you match an AM3 cpu with an AM3 or AM2+ motherboard, you'll be fine. Same goes with CPU coolers, just make sure it's compatible with either AM2+ or AM3

Regarding the CPU: If you can find it, the Phenom II X3 720 is a good alternative too, which like the X2 555 and X3 740, can have cores unlocked.

If you intend to attempt unlocking cores, as Andrew mentioned, this will increase the heat output of your CPU. This is why I recommend an after-market cooler, such as the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus, which will lower the temperatures of your CPU and actually improve the odds of unlocking additional cores.

Also, you'll need a more powerful power supply, the Seasonic 520W won't be able to handle unlocking and/or overclocking with your current setup. The Antec TruePower 750W would make for a good alternative, with a very good price right now.

As for storage, a Samsung f4 320GB or Samsung F3 500GB (or 1TB) will do the job.

Finally, all of your components, as well as my suggestions above are compatible together.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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11-28-2010, 12:12 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-28-2010, 12:18 PM by zanthal.)
#13
RE: Budget Gaming PC parts choices
Thanks Andrew ... just need to give a little time to see if that Phenom II tri-core surfaces and I can place my order.



I have only a loose understanding of overclocking ... care to explain?

also, regarding the 750W power supply ... does it constantly use 750 watts despite what the system currently requires or is that simply the maximum wattage it can safely supply? 750 watts ... we're approaching the same energy required for a low end microwave.
My new PC = CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 450 Rana 3.2GHz Socket AM3 | Motherboard: ASRock 770 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX | Cooling: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus | RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4x2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 | Video: ASUS GeForce GTX 460 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 | Case: Rosewill DESTROYER ATX Mid Tower | Power: Antec TruePower 650W ATX12V V2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Cert | Storage: SAMSUNG 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" HD | Optical drive: Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model
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11-28-2010, 12:52 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-28-2010, 12:53 PM by MathieuB.)
#14
RE: Budget Gaming PC parts choices
Here are a few guides to unlocking and overclocking, which will explain in much greater details than I can in a few lines:
http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/535501...cache.html
http://www.techenclave.com/cpu-mobo-corn...40859.html
http://www.overclock.net/amd-general/525...guide.html

The power supply can deliver UP to 750W to your PC components and will deliver only what is required by the PC components.

750W is more of an overhead if you decide to overclock, upgrade the PC down the road, covers you as the PSU loses output capacity over the years and insure that you're not pushing the PSU too close to its limits, which would reduce its lifespan.

Also good to know: The PSU converts AC power (what's in your house) to DC power (used by PC components). The conversion isn't perfect and part of the power is lost in heat. Both power supplies are 80 PLUS Bronze certified, meaning that they are up to 83% efficient at 50% load.

Assuming your PC uses 500W (random number as an example here), the PSU would pull 585W from the wall. Makes sense?
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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11-28-2010, 01:42 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-28-2010, 02:07 PM by zanthal.)
#15
RE: Budget Gaming PC parts choices

Being said there's no guarantee that the other two cores in the AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition will work ...

I've heard mentioned that sometimes the extra cores are missing entirely? Is that the case with this processor?

Also, if I were to go with this processor, and installed Windows 7 ultimate edition, would I be installing the 32 bit, or the 64 bit version. and how would I determine this?


My new PC = CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 450 Rana 3.2GHz Socket AM3 | Motherboard: ASRock 770 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX | Cooling: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus | RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4x2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 | Video: ASUS GeForce GTX 460 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 | Case: Rosewill DESTROYER ATX Mid Tower | Power: Antec TruePower 650W ATX12V V2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Cert | Storage: SAMSUNG 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" HD | Optical drive: Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model
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11-28-2010, 02:10 PM,
#16
RE: Budget Gaming PC parts choices
There is no guarantee but they are definitely there whether they work or not.

You would want to install the 64 bit version so you could use your full 4GB of RAM.
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11-28-2010, 04:11 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-28-2010, 06:39 PM by zanthal.)
#17
RE: Budget Gaming PC parts choices
Could I get a 'yay' or 'nay' on the compatibility and comments on the desirability of this optical drive?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6827151175


And the same for this Cooler Master?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6835103087

Is the above cooler any better than the one that comes with:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6819103846

?





As a side note: I've got a full cart @ newegg.com and an itchy clicking finger. If I didn't really want the 740 black edition processor it'd be done already.
My new PC = CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 450 Rana 3.2GHz Socket AM3 | Motherboard: ASRock 770 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX | Cooling: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus | RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4x2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 | Video: ASUS GeForce GTX 460 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 | Case: Rosewill DESTROYER ATX Mid Tower | Power: Antec TruePower 650W ATX12V V2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Cert | Storage: SAMSUNG 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" HD | Optical drive: Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model
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11-28-2010, 07:35 PM,
#18
RE: Budget Gaming PC parts choices
Optical drive: To avoid, it's based on the older IDE standard, which is starting to disappear from modern PCs. Get one with a SATA interface.

CPU Cooler would be to avoid as well, it's worse than the included one with the CPU and it can only handle CPUs that output up to 65W.

The Phenom II X2 is rated for 80W, the Phenom II X3 is rated for 95W, if you unlock either, you're reaching 130W and even more if you overclock, so that CPU Cooler wouldn't be adequate.

The best deal for a good CPU Cooler on NewEgg is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 +. It will easily handle an unlocked and overclocked CPU: It's what I use for my own Phenom II X2 555 unlocked to a quad-core and overclocked to 3.6GHz. Also it costs only $30, or $15 after Mail-in Rebate, compared to $50+ for other good CPU Coolers, hence why I recommended it in the first place.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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