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Largest performance increase in WoW
01-11-2011, 04:17 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-11-2011, 04:31 PM by lardacus.)
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Largest performance increase in WoW
Hello, my current system is:

AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.0 GHZ
some shitty Gigabyte AM3 board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6813128392
120gb G. Skill Phoenix Pro SSD
Palit GeForce 460 1gb sonic platinum overclocked edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6814261076
8 gigs G. Skill ripjaw series 1600 ddr3 ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820231277
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

My dilemma right now is choosing between an XFX 6950 and flashing to 6970 or upgrading my processor to an i5 2500 (or 2500-k) and getting a P67 board.

Would/should I change my ram as well with the i5/P67 since it supports up to 2200 (I think)?

I know both are bottlenecks just need to figure out which one is more so than the other. I think I'm leaning towards the i5 and P67 since the 460 isn't nearly as old as the phenom II.

Any thoughts/concerns/suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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01-11-2011, 04:28 PM,
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RE: Largest performance increase in WoW
Your system can't run WoW on ultra as it is? What resolution are you playing at?

Also, if you're getting lag it's probably an internet problem...

RAM speed is a very minor factor, no need to upgrade.

What to upgrade would depend on the resolution of your monitor(s).
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01-11-2011, 04:36 PM,
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RE: Largest performance increase in WoW
(01-11-2011, 04:28 PM)Andrew J Wrote: Your system can't run WoW on ultra as it is? What resolution are you playing at?

Also, if you're getting lag it's probably an internet problem...

RAM speed is a very minor factor, no need to upgrade.

What to upgrade would depend on the resolution of your monitor(s).

Before Cataclysm my rig dominated WoW but I don't know what was changed or if something is going out on my machine that is starting to cause problems now. I usually run 2 wows one on each separate monitor. Main being a 23" @ 1680x1050 and the other is an older 1280x768.

It's not a latency issue, the internet isn't the problem from what I can tell. I tend to have really big spikes in framerate even just idling in Org I'll drop from 40-50 down to 3-8 for about 10-15 seconds and it will clear up.

I'm not completely new when it comes to this stuff so I know for certain all of my drivers/bios are up to date (I even reboot into safemode and use driversweeper when updating)

My settings are all generally on ultra with the exception of shadows. I have set my process affinity to make wow use all 4 cores and I am playing in DX 11 mode.
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01-11-2011, 04:40 PM,
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RE: Largest performance increase in WoW
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-s...-tested/20

For WoW, the CPU determines the min FPS while the GPU determines the max FPS. The biggest gaming improvement would be to go with an i5-2500k and OC to 4+ GHz.
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01-11-2011, 04:45 PM,
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RE: Largest performance increase in WoW
(01-11-2011, 04:40 PM)Mark Wrote: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-s...-tested/20

For WoW, the CPU determines the min FPS while the GPU determines the max FPS. The biggest gaming improvement would be to go with an i5-2500k and OC to 4+ GHz.

Wow, that shows an i5 2500-k with 40 more fps than a Phenom II x4 970 @ 3.5ghz and mine is a 940 at 3.0ghz! I bet it would be about 50-60 fps increase that is huge lol.
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01-11-2011, 04:51 PM,
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RE: Largest performance increase in WoW
AMD doesn't do well in Blizzard games for whatever reason, you can see it in their GPU's as well.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1488/10/

You probably won't see that big of an increase in FPS since those benchmarks are done in very ideal scenario (i.e. not in Org or Lagaran) but the FPS increase should be significant, especially if you OC the i5-2500k.
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01-11-2011, 05:06 PM,
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RE: Largest performance increase in WoW
+1 to go with a CPU upgrade, AMD CPUs don't do well with WoW for some reason indeed, probably something to do with its architecture. Even the i5-760 was much faster than the Phenom II X4 970, while the i5-2500K just crushes it.

A CPU will greatly improve your performance, your GPU is already powerful enough to handle WoW maxed out or nearly maxed out, your CPU is your bottleneck.
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01-14-2011, 10:25 AM,
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RE: Largest performance increase in WoW
I find the AMD 1090T is doing WoW just fine. Smile
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01-14-2011, 07:15 PM,
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RE: Largest performance increase in WoW
I dont see how you couldn't be maxing it now I've got the same processor a 460 talon attack and I'm at ultra 60-90 fps out in the open and atleast 36-50 in major cities
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01-15-2011, 11:39 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-15-2011, 11:40 AM by lardacus.)
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RE: Largest performance increase in WoW
(01-14-2011, 07:15 PM)Garfeild14 Wrote: I dont see how you couldn't be maxing it now I've got the same processor a 460 talon attack and I'm at ultra 60-90 fps out in the open and atleast 36-50 in major cities

I tend to have two WoWs going at the same time, one per monitor. The main one being the one I'm actually doing stuff on @ 1680 x 1050 and the other one is my AH mule where I try and make money while doing other things. The second monitor is @ 1280 x 800. Both are on Ultra with shadows disabled. Both monitors are running at their maximum resolution.

I don't have problems in town or out questing. The problems start to appear whenever I get into a 5 man group or higher.

In 5 mans there isn't generally a problem unless there is a bunch of aoe all at once. Like in The stonecore when people aoe the crystals on Corborus or on the last boss when people aoe down the add packs before the boss I tend to freeze up for like 2 seconds.

Same thing for in 10mans, anything that requires a mass amount of spells to be cast at the same time, I freeze up.

In 25mans, performance is terrible all around. Obviously drastically worse when there is a lot of aoe. Last 25 man I did I had to disable half of my addons, close the second WoW and turn all of my settings down in order to maintain 30-40 fps in combat.

I know a lot of others have it worse off than I do but what I'm aiming for is a system that can run both WoWs, at ultra, at max resolution and have zero performance issues whether it be 5, 10 or 25 man raids.
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