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New CPU
03-21-2012, 08:39 PM,
#11
RE: New CPU
(03-21-2012, 07:41 PM)mwhals Wrote: I run more programs than you mentioned at the same time on an 8 year old AMD64 3500+ single core processor. I would suggest that your heat sink isn't getting good contact with the CPU. The problem isn't your processor causing the high temperatures.

What I haven't seen asked it how old is the PC and has it just started running hot. If it ran fine before and is just starting to run hot, I would suspect that you have one or more fans not working or you have severe dust buildup in the PC.

An upgraded cooler will definitely get your temperatures down, but do check the dust and other fans in addition to the new cooler.

1) It's about a year old.
2) As far as I know, it's always been upper 50 ish when running a game.
3) I recently cleaned the dust out of all the fans in my computer, and to my knowledge they are all working.

I am pretty sure it's just that I messed up on putting on the heatsink, as everything else in my comp has normal temperature, but my processor is extremely hot.
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03-21-2012, 11:20 PM,
#12
RE: New CPU
55-70C is fine for a CPU, that won't cause it to overheat nor slow down.

Your bottleneck is somewhere else. I'd consider a RAM upgrade, 4GB is more than likely not enough to handle everything that you listed.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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03-22-2012, 03:26 PM,
#13
RE: New CPU
spec sheet for your cpu lists max temp at 69.1 deg C, as mathieu stated. that goes for the new line of amd as well, but not for the phenom II 62 deg C.(if anyone is interested).

a ram upgrade would be the least expensive choice and there is a way to see if a ram upgrade will help(although it may not help at all when it comes to gaming but it might lessen redraw time). while you are doing your business on the pc, with all that stuff running a bit, bring up task manager and click on performance. you see the graphs for memory, right. look at the one called hard faults, and note how the graph spikes up. if it spikes way up, then a ram upgrade might help, but only in so much as responsiveness goes(how quickly you can tab between apps.). just as info, the hard faults tells you how many times the OS has written and read from the pagefile.(and no matter how much memory you have, the OS will still write to it).

now to the gist of it, the i3-2100 is not well suited for multi tasking, as been proved by many benchmarks on different web sites. the idea that only 2 cores max for applications are used is incorrect, not since XP was developed. multi tasking and multi threading are two different things, the more apps you have up and the more cores you have available , win7 does a better job of spreading those processes over those available cores.

while you have task manager up go ahead and check your cpu usage as well, ill bet its up there.
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03-22-2012, 04:02 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-22-2012, 04:04 PM by Celidion.)
#14
RE: New CPU
I checked my CPU and Ram stats with Task Manager with all of that stuff up while playing a game and I don't see any hard faults. My CPU usage is 30-50% and Ram is ~50%, so I really don't know. I don't think it's my internet either, but I am currently doing some tests for that. Do you guys know anything I could do to figure out what it is?


Edit: Actually it might be my CPU. "CPU 0" is ~80% used, but 1 and 2 are hardly used. Total is around 30%. I'm assuming this is normal?
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03-22-2012, 05:07 PM,
#15
RE: New CPU
what game are you playing with this? the only game that i have seen trouble with this particular cpu is BF3 in big map large servers, where cpu usage is spread 80-90% across all cores, but only on certain maps. the results for memory show that you should be good to go on memory.
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03-22-2012, 06:59 PM,
#16
RE: New CPU
Well I did some more tests, and maybe it is my internet, but I'm not 100% sure.

http://www.dslreports.com/pingtest/53a74...3434?r=800 <---- is that 100% loss at the end normal?

http://n1.netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/sum...-4f02-8c88

I've attached a more specific ping route to my game server, it looks really really bad, but I don't know why.


I'd be happy to do some more tests, if you guys know any ones that would be helpful.


Edit: I'm so sorry that I saved it as a GIF, JPEG was too big for this forum's limit.


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03-22-2012, 07:37 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-22-2012, 07:48 PM by PwnBroker.)
#17
RE: New CPU
(03-22-2012, 06:59 PM)Celidion Wrote: Well I did some more tests, and maybe it is my internet, but I'm not 100% sure.

http://www.dslreports.com/pingtest/53a74...3434?r=800 <---- is that 100% loss at the end normal?

http://n1.netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/sum...-4f02-8c88

I've attached a more specific ping route to my game server, it looks really really bad, but I don't know why.


I'd be happy to do some more tests, if you guys know any ones that would be helpful.


Edit: I'm so sorry that I saved it as a GIF, JPEG was too big for this forum's limit.

with only 80% usage on one core id say your good with the cpu. that last hop before your target server is 100% loss. is this the only game your having trouble with?

good luck.
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03-22-2012, 09:24 PM,
#18
RE: New CPU
(03-22-2012, 07:37 PM)PwnBroker Wrote:
(03-22-2012, 06:59 PM)Celidion Wrote: Well I did some more tests, and maybe it is my internet, but I'm not 100% sure.

http://www.dslreports.com/pingtest/53a74...3434?r=800 <---- is that 100% loss at the end normal?

http://n1.netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/sum...-4f02-8c88

I've attached a more specific ping route to my game server, it looks really really bad, but I don't know why.


I'd be happy to do some more tests, if you guys know any ones that would be helpful.


Edit: I'm so sorry that I saved it as a GIF, JPEG was too big for this forum's limit.

with only 80% usage on one core id say your good with the cpu. that last hop before your target server is 100% loss. is this the only game your having trouble with?

good luck.

I also have ping spikes in vent sometimes, from like 30-60 to 300-500+. But I'm pretty sure it's just vent being glitchy or something, as I don't notice any difference.
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03-23-2012, 04:35 PM,
#19
RE: New CPU
Any % of loss is bad and will induce "lag" in online games and will slowdown anything that uses Internet.

How are you connected to the Internet (direct RJ-45 "LAN" wire to the modem, wire to router, wireless, etc.)?
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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03-23-2012, 05:17 PM,
#20
RE: New CPU
(03-23-2012, 04:35 PM)MathieuB Wrote: Any % of loss is bad and will induce "lag" in online games and will slowdown anything that uses Internet.

How are you connected to the Internet (direct RJ-45 "LAN" wire to the modem, wire to router, wireless, etc.)?

My computer is directly connected to my modem, which also serves as a router.
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