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Sandy Bridge is out
01-03-2011, 01:12 AM,
#1
Sandy Bridge is out
And the reports are in.

Sandy Bridge pretty much kills everything in its price range, not counting the i3s/low budget processors those suck more now because there is no way to overclock them at this time, in terms of performance and power.

4.4 overclocks are possible with their stock coolers and voltages. 5.0 ghz OCs have been made with 1.5V and decent temps on air.

I think it might be time for updates on the builds? These things are pretty good for how much they are going for: the $200 - $300 sweet spot.
CASE: Silverstone FT02B-W | OS: Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium |
CPU: i7 950 @ 4.20 Ghz @ 1.325v (200X21 w/HT on) | CPU COOLER: Thermalright Silver Arrow| PSU: Silverstone ST-1000p 1000W | STORAGE: 2x Samsung 1TB HDD, 1x Crucial RealSSD 64GB SSD | MOBO: Asus P6X58D-E | RAM: G - Skill 3x 2Gb 1600 | VIDEO CARD: EVGA GTX 580 @ 900/1800/2100| KEYBOARD: Razer Blackwidow| MOUSE: Razer Deathadder
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01-03-2011, 03:05 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-03-2011, 03:05 AM by MathieuB.)
#2
RE: Sandy Bridge is out
Yep, I'm reading reviews too. SB is impressive, especially mobile SB.

Makes me glad that I waited for SB before ordering my new laptop. Now, just have to see some good models to come out. 3 days to go until CES Wink

As for overclocking, keep in mind that it's fairly limited (+400MHz) if you have a regular chip, unlike -K chips, which have unlocked multipliers that will allow you to reach much higher frequencies.

"5.0 ghz OCs have been made with 1.5V and decent temps on air."
1.5V? Trying to kill a 32nm chip ASAP? Tongue

I'll be updating the builds as soon as the CPUs and motherboards are actually available, so later on this week most likely.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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01-03-2011, 04:41 AM,
#3
RE: Sandy Bridge is out
Yeah, the voltage settings of 5.0 ghz OCs are worrisome and do seem really high. I always thought the the 32nm processors could only handle up 1.375 V before the gains/longevity ratio makes it not worth it. But in the reviews the temps for this voltage are sub 80C with a decent cooler! It seems that 4.8 Ghz fall (assuming that 1.375 is "safe") will probably be common.

Also, I was just talking about the K processors for the OCs, AFAIK the non-K processors are capped between 3.4 - 3.8 Ghz with all cores going full throttle.

The more amazing thing is the power usage. It uses way less power than previous generation processors. Also, it is a beast at Folding@home, they apparently match the processing power, when heavily overclocked, of Hexa-core (more or less, a little slower per frame).

That said, I'm not jumping ship just yet for SB. My 950 can still hold its own until LGA 2011 comes out or if they lower the prices of the 970.
CASE: Silverstone FT02B-W | OS: Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium |
CPU: i7 950 @ 4.20 Ghz @ 1.325v (200X21 w/HT on) | CPU COOLER: Thermalright Silver Arrow| PSU: Silverstone ST-1000p 1000W | STORAGE: 2x Samsung 1TB HDD, 1x Crucial RealSSD 64GB SSD | MOBO: Asus P6X58D-E | RAM: G - Skill 3x 2Gb 1600 | VIDEO CARD: EVGA GTX 580 @ 900/1800/2100| KEYBOARD: Razer Blackwidow| MOUSE: Razer Deathadder
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01-03-2011, 09:33 AM,
#4
RE: Sandy Bridge is out
(01-03-2011, 03:05 AM)MathieuB Wrote: Yep, I'm reading reviews too. SB is impressive, especially mobile SB.

Makes me glad that I waited for SB before ordering my new laptop. Now, just have to see some good models to come out. 3 days to go until CES Wink

As for overclocking, keep in mind that it's fairly limited (+400MHz) if you have a regular chip, unlike -K chips, which have unlocked multipliers that will allow you to reach much higher frequencies.

"5.0 ghz OCs have been made with 1.5V and decent temps on air."
1.5V? Trying to kill a 32nm chip ASAP? Tongue

I'll be updating the builds as soon as the CPUs and motherboards are actually available, so later on this week most likely.
Does this include the HTPC builds as well? Smile
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01-03-2011, 05:52 PM,
#5
RE: Sandy Bridge is out
(01-03-2011, 09:33 AM)Geran Brown Wrote: Does this include the HTPC builds as well? Smile

Yes, at least the $1000 and $1500 HTPCs. I'll be updating the $1250 Workstation as well.

Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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01-03-2011, 08:19 PM,
#6
RE: Sandy Bridge is out
(01-03-2011, 05:52 PM)MathieuB Wrote:
(01-03-2011, 09:33 AM)Geran Brown Wrote: Does this include the HTPC builds as well? Smile

Yes, at least the $1000 and $1500 HTPCs. I'll be updating the $1250 Workstation as well.
Awesome. Are you getting rid of the $500 HTPC?
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01-03-2011, 08:41 PM,
#7
RE: Sandy Bridge is out
Nope, it's just that a $500 budget won't be enough to equip the $500 HTPC with an expensive SB CPU and P67 motherboard Wink

We'll see what AMD reserves for us at CES, with their low-power platform, might make for something interesting for the $500 HTPC. We'll see soon.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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01-03-2011, 08:47 PM,
#8
RE: Sandy Bridge is out
(01-03-2011, 08:41 PM)MathieuB Wrote: Nope, it's just that a $500 budget won't be enough to equip the $500 HTPC with an expensive SB CPU and P67 motherboard Wink

We'll see what AMD reserves for us at CES, with their low-power platform, might make for something interesting for the $500 HTPC. We'll see soon.
Sounds good to me. I am in the process of plan my HTPC build (without a video card) but I will probably be waiting until your update comes. Same goes for my new computer workstation for my new job. Big Grin
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01-04-2011, 01:57 AM,
#9
RE: Sandy Bridge is out
Sounds good, let me know if you're looking for anything specific.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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01-04-2011, 08:40 PM,
#10
RE: Sandy Bridge is out
(01-04-2011, 01:57 AM)MathieuB Wrote: Sounds good, let me know if you're looking for anything specific.
My only requirements for the HTPC are no video card, it must have a SSD, 1080p playback and be super quiet.
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