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$50 upgrade worth it?
01-02-2011, 05:35 PM,
#11
RE: $50 upgrade worth it?
If you're going to build you're own computer you could buy a decent power supply to use in you current one and use it when you get a new computer, and then spend a little on the old computer if you're not upgrading for a while. I personally think it's not worth it anymore. My older laptop (2GHZ P4, 1GB ram, 32MB graphics) plays all the games you mentioned, but at the lowest settings and sometimes the framerates are kinda low. I think the motherboard is your limiting factor because it stops you from upgrading RAM, graphics and CPU to an extent.
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01-04-2011, 07:07 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-04-2011, 09:17 PM by Rush12049.)
#12
RE: $50 upgrade worth it?
Ok, so I forgot I have a spare PSU from a Dell that has some serious problems with it. But the PSU works fine and its 330 watts. So I'm guessing I could just use that, and just buy the GeForce FX 5200 video card for $30 and 256mb of RAM for $16.99 and that would be it. Being as the card has 256mb DDR RAM, would the PC itself use any of that extra ram in the card? Or would it just be used for the games?
R.I.P Netscape - December 15, 1994 - March 1, 2008

Case: Cooler Master 690 II CPU: Intel Core i5-3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHZ GPU: XFX 6850 1GB GDDR5 HDD: Samsung F3 1TB Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 RAM: 2x4GB (8GB) G.Skill SNIPER 1333MHz Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD-ROMPSU: 550W Rosewill HIVE Bronze Monitor: Dell 1905FP Keyboard: Logitech G105 MW3 Edition Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia GMX A-2.1
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01-05-2011, 01:51 AM,
#13
RE: $50 upgrade worth it?
Just warning you, the current PSU that you have in your PC won't be able to drive any AGP video card, since it can only send up to 8A on the 3.3V line (AGP Video Cards primarily use 3.3V) or a mere 26.4W, no where enough to drive a video card. Can you take a pic of the Dell one?

I can tell you that the RAM is your biggest bottleneck. Upgrading the video card won't make much of a difference in the everyday usage, only for videos and video games. And no, the "PC" (other components of the PC) can't use the RAM found on the video card.

Upgrading the RAM on the other hand should give you a noticeable performance improvement and I highly recommend maxing it out at 512MB, this is the best choice to get the best bang for your buck, that is to get the most performance improvement at the lowest price. I mean, $25 for a noticeable performance difference is as good as it gets.

Speaker wise, I'd recommend the Logitech X-140 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6836121002) based on my own experience with them. Had them for about 3 years, a friend wanted a pair after she heard them and that I told her the price.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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01-05-2011, 04:59 PM,
#14
RE: $50 upgrade worth it?
(01-05-2011, 01:51 AM)MathieuB Wrote: Just warning you, the current PSU that you have in your PC won't be able to drive any AGP video card, since it can only send up to 8A on the 3.3V line (AGP Video Cards primarily use 3.3V) or a mere 26.4W, no where enough to drive a video card. Can you take a pic of the Dell one?

and I highly recommend maxing it out at 512MB.

Speaker wise, I'd recommend the Logitech X-140

As for the video card, it's not AGP. There is not an AGP slot in the Compaq's Motherboard. Just 4 PCI slots. Pic of the Dell PSU: http://i56.tinypic.com/2hfs5ya.jpg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820146303 Heres the RAM I was looking at, 256MB of PC133 RAM. I need to buy two of them. Also, Newegg says the speakers that you mentioned, have been deactivated.
R.I.P Netscape - December 15, 1994 - March 1, 2008

Case: Cooler Master 690 II CPU: Intel Core i5-3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHZ GPU: XFX 6850 1GB GDDR5 HDD: Samsung F3 1TB Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 RAM: 2x4GB (8GB) G.Skill SNIPER 1333MHz Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD-ROMPSU: 550W Rosewill HIVE Bronze Monitor: Dell 1905FP Keyboard: Logitech G105 MW3 Edition Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia GMX A-2.1
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01-05-2011, 06:46 PM,
#15
RE: $50 upgrade worth it?
My bad for the speakers, I added a ) at the end of the link, that's why it wasn't working properly. This should work:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6836121002

For the RAM, you mentioned using PC100 RAM, while you linked to PC133. I'd stick (no pun intended) to PC 100 to ensure compatibility. Two of these will do: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820146079

Go figure why was I thinking about AGP...PCI uses 5V, but still, that HP PSU is incredibly weak. I'd go with the Dell PSU to be on the safe side. The Geforce 5200 will do the job, but don't expect any miracle from it. Not much of a point looking for a faster card too, the PCI interface is the bottleneck here.

Personally, I'd get the RAM to improve the PC for now, skip the video card and save for a new PC instead. Even the ~$250 Web PC, with its integrated video card, would be a day and night difference compared to what you have or would have with the upgrades, including in video games. Not to mention that you could upgrade it afterwards, with up to 8GB of RAM and a PCI-Express 16x slot for a dedicated video card.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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01-05-2011, 08:55 PM,
#16
RE: $50 upgrade worth it?
(01-05-2011, 06:46 PM)MathieuB Wrote: My bad for the speakers, I added a ) at the end of the link, that's why it wasn't working properly. This should work:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6836121002

For the RAM, you mentioned using PC100 RAM, while you linked to PC133. I'd stick (no pun intended) to PC 100 to ensure compatibility. Two of these will do: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820146079

Ok, well, I'll see how things go. My Xbox 360 just got the RRoD, and I'm going to have to spend money on a new one. So, I don't know.

I've read that PC133 RAM can "downclock" itself to 100mhz or 66mhz speed in the BIOS or something. Not sure if it's true or not. But I guess like you said, better safe then sorry.
R.I.P Netscape - December 15, 1994 - March 1, 2008

Case: Cooler Master 690 II CPU: Intel Core i5-3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHZ GPU: XFX 6850 1GB GDDR5 HDD: Samsung F3 1TB Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 RAM: 2x4GB (8GB) G.Skill SNIPER 1333MHz Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD-ROMPSU: 550W Rosewill HIVE Bronze Monitor: Dell 1905FP Keyboard: Logitech G105 MW3 Edition Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia GMX A-2.1
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01-06-2011, 01:32 AM,
#17
RE: $50 upgrade worth it?
If it got rrod then you can get it fixed from ms for free man.
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01-06-2011, 05:02 PM,
#18
RE: $50 upgrade worth it?
(01-06-2011, 01:32 AM)Phrosty Wrote: If it got rrod then you can get it fixed from ms for free man.

Yeah, I figured that out. Sending it today. No more Xbox for 3 weeks. =(.
R.I.P Netscape - December 15, 1994 - March 1, 2008

Case: Cooler Master 690 II CPU: Intel Core i5-3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHZ GPU: XFX 6850 1GB GDDR5 HDD: Samsung F3 1TB Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 RAM: 2x4GB (8GB) G.Skill SNIPER 1333MHz Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD-ROMPSU: 550W Rosewill HIVE Bronze Monitor: Dell 1905FP Keyboard: Logitech G105 MW3 Edition Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia GMX A-2.1
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01-06-2011, 05:06 PM,
#19
RE: $50 upgrade worth it?
But budget for new PC instead! Big Grin
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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01-08-2011, 11:52 PM,
#20
RE: $50 upgrade worth it?
I will add to the above opinions...to throw money at this dinosaur is throwing good money after bad...

But good on ya for getting 10 years out of it!!

As a sidethought...You could troll craigslist and find a used box with better specs than what you got easily for less than $100 while you save...that would accomplish your short term goals. Any socket 478 or 754 box will be hella cheap right now and would run circles around what you have now
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