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Trying to build a amd gaming computer
01-09-2012, 11:08 PM,
#1
Trying to build a amd gaming computer
Hello I am new to the forums but I read them and the site all the time. I don't expect people people to take serious time trying to help me in a perfect world a whole build would be nice but just any suggestions would be great I am mainly stumped on what direction I should go for mother board/processor/video card.


I am looking to build a budget gaming computer for around 500$( I can spend slightly over this maybe 600-650 but prefer not to). Obviously there is a section on this but it only suggests intel processors in this price range and I don't think the mother boards listed support the processor I want.

Phenom II X6 1090T 'Black Edition' (3.2GHz, 125W, 3MB total dedicated L2 cache, 6MB L3 cache, 4000MHz HyperTransport™ bus, socket AM3)

This is the only mother board I have found so far http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_i..._id=042744

But the problem lays within 220$ for mother board and 185$ for processor so I am at like 405$ alone just on those two. I am flexible and would be willing to spend 100$ more or less give or take but from what I have tried to learn amd is the way to go for gaming and intel for photo shop etc.

Lastly I would like to mention I don't need to have the BEST stuff obviously since I am only spending 500$ give or take 100$. The computer will be used mainly for diablo3, league of legends(I want to be able to live stream with out my fps going way down) but I do occasionally dip into other random games so I would like the computer to be able to run all games if possible even if I have to lower the settings resolution etc. This is only going to be a temp until I can afford a really good one(My g/f computer is total crap so this one will be passed to her just for web surfing streaming and possible diablo3)

As for the video cards I am thinking about
Radeon HD 6850 139.99
Radeon HD 6870 159.99

Thank in advance for any help you guys can give me Smile
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01-09-2012, 11:12 PM,
#2
RE: Trying to build a amd gaming computer
AMD's not the way to go with anything. They're terrible at the moment. Pick one of Mathieu's builds and go with Intel.
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01-09-2012, 11:41 PM,
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RE: Trying to build a amd gaming computer
(01-09-2012, 11:12 PM)Brian Wrote: AMD's not the way to go with anything. They're terrible at the moment. Pick one of Mathieu's builds and go with Intel.


Really? When I looked at the amd x6 vs i5 or i7 the bench marks were all higher on amd on the game sections. I am not questioning you just trying to learn or get good advice....The other rout I was going to go is with the i3 or i5 which would be simpler as it is all listed Smile.
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01-09-2012, 11:46 PM,
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RE: Trying to build a amd gaming computer
(01-09-2012, 11:41 PM)SZAGENT Wrote:
(01-09-2012, 11:12 PM)Brian Wrote: AMD's not the way to go with anything. They're terrible at the moment. Pick one of Mathieu's builds and go with Intel.


Really? When I looked at the amd x6 vs i5 or i7 the bench marks were all higher on amd on the game sections. I am not questioning you just trying to learn or get good advice....The other rout I was going to go is with the i3 or i5 which would be simpler as it is all listed Smile.

Actually AMD X6 is waay behind. I think you were looking at the benchmarks wrong.
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01-10-2012, 12:29 AM,
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RE: Trying to build a amd gaming computer
I would go here: http://www.hardware-revolution.com/budge...mber-2011/

And Take a look at the different price ranged Tiers. The Tier 1 OC uses an AMD processor that can be overclocked. It's priced at $650. But other than that Intel is really the better processor in all other aspects.

"I have tried to learn amd is the way to go for gaming and intel for photo shop etc."

This might be out-dated information but it is definitely not true now. Intel i5's and i7's rule the gaming desktop market.
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01-10-2012, 01:07 AM,
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RE: Trying to build a amd gaming computer
Oh alright thanks this will make life easier as I can just copy one of the builds there. One final question for now though I want an i5 over an i3 but its not listed in the tiers im looking at...am I able to do either the tier 2 or 1 with any i5 processor?
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01-10-2012, 10:40 AM,
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RE: Trying to build a amd gaming computer
Hmm, maybe I'm not entirely sure. But even if you could you might be bottle-necked by a lower quality motherboard. And remember the i5's can be around $200 so that's a 3rd of your budge already. Take a look at the mainstream gaming PC's as well, they list some of the different i5's and corresponding motherboards, but your prices will go way up.
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01-10-2012, 12:34 PM,
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RE: Trying to build a amd gaming computer
(01-10-2012, 10:40 AM)Pineappl Wrote: Hmm, maybe I'm not entirely sure. But even if you could you might be bottle-necked by a lower quality motherboard. And remember the i5's can be around $200 so that's a 3rd of your budge already. Take a look at the mainstream gaming PC's as well, they list some of the different i5's and corresponding motherboards, but your prices will go way up.

Thanks so much for the input. I just want to system to have a little staying power long term. I know with my budget I can't be picky but I just figured there was a huge difference in overall performance between the i3/i5. I thought the whole dual core vs quad core meant a lot. Am I wrong here and I wouldn't notice much difference since my rig will be budget or if I can afford def go with the i5 over i3?
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01-10-2012, 01:55 PM,
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RE: Trying to build a amd gaming computer
While upgrading from an i3 to an i5 will indeed give you a significant performance boost, it's not the wisest investment when you're on a tight budget.

Most games are bottlenecked by the video card, so you're better off investing the bulk of your budget there instead to get the most performance possible for your budget.
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01-10-2012, 04:00 PM,
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RE: Trying to build a amd gaming computer
(01-10-2012, 01:55 PM)MathieuB Wrote: While upgrading from an i3 to an i5 will indeed give you a significant performance boost, it's not the wisest investment when you're on a tight budget.

Most games are bottlenecked by the video card, so you're better off investing the bulk of your budget there instead to get the most performance possible for your budget.

Yea I think I am just going to go with an i3 to save some money. I may have to wait or go to an even cheaper build as I just took a few of your builds links to the pieces and copied the item # then went to the canadian sites of newegg amazon tigerdirect etc and it appears every piece is 20-40$ more in canada.

I understand my dollar is worth less(I get 97.xxUSD for 1$ canadian) but the prices are insane on these sites compared to the american sites. I hate how they do this as the customer pays for shipping and it comes from the USA ware houses anyways as I have ordered from tiger direct quite a bit and every time came from the USA.

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