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Need help on my 700$ ultimate RIG
12-27-2011, 10:40 PM,
#1
Need help on my 700$ ultimate RIG
Heres what I have assembled, and planning to built this in 2 or 3 days when I buy the parts. All the prices are from Canadas Computer.
Budget: 700$ or trying to limit to 700$ around. Right now the parts below adds up to 874.9$ and hope to lower this.


i5 2.5k unlocked sandy bridge 199.99

Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 Socket 1155 Intel Z68 Chipset Dual-Channel DDR3 2133/1866/1600/1333/1066 MHz 2x PCI-Express GLAN 7.1-CH HD Audio 2x SATA 6.0Gb/s 3x SATA 3.0Gb/s 10xUSB 2.0 2xUSB3.0 ATX (104.99)

G.SKILL Sniper Series DDR3 1600MHz (PC3-12800) 8GB (2 x 4GB) Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR) (34.99)

EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB 1024MB GDDR5 (01G-P3-1561-KR) nVidia GeForce GTX 560 Chipset 1GB DDR5 Dual Display DVI-I/Mini-HDMI PCI Express 2.0 Graphics Card
209.99

OCZ (AGT3-25SAT3-60G) Agility 3 2.5" 60GB SATA3 6GB/s Solid State Drive, Read: 525MB/s, Write: 475MB/s (69.99)

Seagate 320GB 2.5" SATA Internal Drive (ST903203N1A2AS-R) from futureshop

ASUS DRW-24B1ST Black SATA 24X DVD-Writer 24xDVD+R/-R 24xDVD+/-R DL 8xDVD+RW/6xDVD-RW 48xCD-R OEM (24.99)

XFX 750W PRO750W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 62A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze PSU (59.99)

Coolermaster Haf 912 Black Mid Tower ATX Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB Sound (49.99)

NZXT Havik 140 (HAVIK 140) Six Heatpipe Tower CPU Cooler with dual 140mm Fans for Intel LGA1155/1156/1366/775 and AMD AM3/AM2+/AM2 (49.99)


Questions, and this new rig is built for Dota 2, and Starcraft 2, running both games at high settings at least.

1) Do I need the NZXT Havik 140 cooler? Is it better for my parts, and for my gaming experience?

2)Anything here I should change from one brand to another to get a cheaper deal?

3)Is the SSD worth getting? Because my friend said with the SSD base on system loading, it can load the computer from it turning on to loading all the start ups in 20seconds.

4)Thank you for answering my first 3 questions, appreciated! my friend has a AMD radeon 6950, was there anything I can get to be BETTER and cheap? all i can find is the gtx 560 TI.

5)Not planning to overclocked because I'm too noob at it, so should i still get the i5 2500k sandy bridge? Or stick back to the i5 2500 instead?

Thank you very much for the help! And happy new years!
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12-27-2011, 10:48 PM,
#2
RE: Need help on my 700$ ultimate RIG
1) Since you won't be overclocking, it is unnecessary. The included Intel stock cooler will do the job and if you desire a less noisy solution, a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus will do the job for way less.
2) Everything looks fine to me, although the power supply is way overkill. 500W would be plenty enough.
3) It is in my opinion. It's the sort of thing that you have to try for yourself and once you've tried it, you don't want to go back. A SSD dramatically speeds up any form of loading, whether it's the OS, a program, a game, etc. and makes your system much more responsive.
4) The GTX 560 Ti performs nearly as well as the Radeon HD 6950, so that's a good choice too.
5) No point in spending more for the 2500K if you won't overclock, so go with the i5-2500 non-K.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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12-27-2011, 11:23 PM,
#3
RE: Need help on my 700$ ultimate RIG
(12-27-2011, 10:48 PM)MathieuB Wrote: 1) Since you won't be overclocking, it is unnecessary. The included Intel stock cooler will do the job and if you desire a less noisy solution, a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus will do the job for way less.
2) Everything looks fine to me, although the power supply is way overkill. 500W would be plenty enough.
3) It is in my opinion. It's the sort of thing that you have to try for yourself and once you've tried it, you don't want to go back. A SSD dramatically speeds up any form of loading, whether it's the OS, a program, a game, etc. and makes your system much more responsive.
4) The GTX 560 Ti performs nearly as well as the Radeon HD 6950, so that's a good choice too.
5) No point in spending more for the 2500K if you won't overclock, so go with the i5-2500 non-K.

Thanks MathieuB for replying!
1) So I guess the NZXT Havik 6 heatpipe is pointless, Maybe the cooler master would be good.

2) my friend was calculating and he said I would need atleast 700W... so I took the 750W instead.

3) Could I add a SSD later on in life or do I have to get it now when i built my rig?

4) Yea, I'ma stick with the 560 GTX

5) True, overclocking is scarying and requires me to buy more expensive fans and coolers and WATTS.

6)Would this new rig be able to handle the high settings on StarCraft 2, and Dota 2?
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12-28-2011, 12:06 AM,
#4
RE: Need help on my 700$ ultimate RIG
2) Whatever method he uses is inaccurate and completely over-estimate power requirements. 750W is way overkill and 500W is more than enough.
3) Sure
6) Yes.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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12-28-2011, 12:44 AM,
#5
RE: Need help on my 700$ ultimate RIG
If i just buy the i5 2500 at the price of 199.99, I found a promotion code where I can save 29.99 off the i5 2500k which puts it at the same price of 199.99 as the normal i5 2500. So should I just get the i5 2500k instead? Heres the site for it http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=5...omoid=1301
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12-28-2011, 12:50 AM,
#6
RE: Need help on my 700$ ultimate RIG
If it's the same price, might as well get the 2500k and have the possibility of overclocking it later on if you want to.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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12-28-2011, 12:54 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-28-2011, 01:40 AM by efxs.)
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RE: Need help on my 700$ ultimate RIG
Any suggestion on a cheaper graphic card replacing the EVGA gtx 560 TI FERMI? Because I can always SLI/crossfire when I get my next paid cheque. Any suggestion on a good SLI/Crossfire graphic that I can just get right now and is better then the 6950 when I do crossfire/SLI later on? Because the price for the gtx 560 TI Fermi just went up by 39.99.. so I can afford the extra money right now.
Gigabyte (GV-N560OC-1GI) nVidia GeForce GTX 560Ti (900MHz) 1GB (4000MHz) GDDR5 Dual Dual-Link DVI/Mini-HDMI PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card
(219.99)

VS

EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB 1024MB GDDR5 (01G-P3-1561-AR) nVidia GeForce GTX 560 Chipset 1GB DDR5 Dual Display DVI-I/Mini-HDMI PCI Express 2.0 Graphics Card

(239.99)

VS

EVGA GeForce GTX 560 1024MB Superclocked GDDR5 (01G-P3-1463-KR) nVidia GeForce GT 560 Chipset(850MHz) 1024MB DDR5 Memory(4104MHz) Dual DVI/Mini-HDMI Port PCI Express 2.0 Graphics

(199.99)

Which one is best for price and also good with SLI/corssfire comparing to 6950?
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12-28-2011, 02:52 AM,
#8
RE: Need help on my 700$ ultimate RIG
Just fyi, overclocking on a 2500k is as easy as dragging a slider... of course how far you can drag it depends on the mobo. Also, check that mobo and see if it has 2 PCIe slots, and what speeds they run at. If it does x16/x4 that could hinder the SLi
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12-28-2011, 08:01 AM,
#9
RE: Need help on my 700$ ultimate RIG
I usually don't recommend Crossfire/SLI with low-end/mainstream cards, as you risk ending up with micro-stuttering in the game. Anything below a GTX 560 TI 448 Cores shouldn't be put in SLI in my opinion, so if you want a SLI setup later on, I'd start with a GTX 560 Ti 448 cores card.

Out of those three cards, the Gigabyte is the best choice. The EVGA GTX 560 Ti is more expensive and the EVGA GeForce GTX 560 is the non-Ti version, which is considerably slower.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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12-28-2011, 06:36 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-28-2011, 06:46 PM by efxs.)
#10
RE: Need help on my 700$ ultimate RIG
(12-28-2011, 02:52 AM)Final692 Wrote: Just fyi, overclocking on a 2500k is as easy as dragging a slider... of course how far you can drag it depends on the mobo. Also, check that mobo and see if it has 2 PCIe slots, and what speeds they run at. If it does x16/x4 that could hinder the SLi

Here is the inform on the 2 PCIe slots, seems like there is 2 there.

1. 1 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x16 (PCIEX16)
* For optimum performance, if only one PCI Express graphics card is to be installed, be sure to install it in the PCIEX16 slot.
2. 1 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x4 (PCIEX4)
* The PCIEX4 slot shares bandwidth with the PCIEX1_2 and PCIEX1_3 slots. When the PCIEX1_2 slot or the PCIEX1_3 slot is populated, the PCIEX4 slot will operate at up to x1 mode.
(All PCI Express x16 slots conform to PCI Express 3.0 standard.)
* To support PCI Express 3.0, you must install an Intel 22nm CPU.
3. 3 x PCI Express x1 slots
(All PCI Express slots conform to PCI Express 2.0 standard.)
4. 2 x PCI slots
EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Superclocked 1024MB GDDR5 (01G-P3-1563-AR) nVidia GeForce GTX 560 Chipset (900MHz) 1GB DDR5(4212MHz) Dual Display DVI-I/Mini-HDMI PCI Express 2.0 Graphics Card

I dont get the 900mhz, and the 4212mhz, what are they for? and how can you tell if its good?
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