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Another New Build Question Thread
12-26-2011, 03:36 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-26-2011, 03:44 PM by West2746.)
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Another New Build Question Thread
New here. Decided to build a new system after not keeping up with computers for several years. Been resaearching for a few weeks and started buying parts.

So far--
Intel I5 2500K $180
Asrook P67 Extreme4 Gen3 $165
Enermax 1350w $210
G.Skill 1866 x16 $120
Seagate Barracuda 7200 320GB Already have new
Samsung DVD/CD $19
Windows 7 Pro OS $109

I know the PSU is high but want to OC someday and want enough power to run 2 GPU if I go that way. The HDD is on the low end but I can always add more later, this one has been sitting in my closest still in the box plus I have never gone over 300 before. I will be adding these parts--

Samsung 830 120 GB SDD
Case is still undecided yet-will be based upon some by CPU cooler
Still researching GPU and CPU Coolers.

Is there any advantage to doing a H2O cooler over an air cooler? My currant system has a water cooler in it and never had any issues. I was looking at going with Corsair H100? Is there really any advantage? There are no suggested water coolers listed and no reason why?

Any reason not to do SLI if using a 560/448 card or 570?

I found a Zotac 570GTX for $290 new. Is this a good card?

Zotac ZT-50203-10M NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1280MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.0 x16 Video Card

It lloks to be a stock-base model 570 card.

Or would a EVGA OC card at $330 be better choice? I have an EVGA card now and never had any issue with it.
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12-26-2011, 04:38 PM,
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RE: Another New Build Question Thread
Quite honestly, there is no advantage to a low cost water cooling system, unless you are very space confined and can't fit an air cooler. Unless you're building your own custom loop, I would highly discourage you from using water cooling. The low cost, self contained water cooling systems tend to be louder, more expensive, less reliable, and less effective than similarly priced air cooling alternatives. The H100 will slightly outperform the best air cooler, but it's way noisier and more expensive.

Secondly, 1350W is absolute overkill. Unless you're considering running three or more highly overclocked and power hungry cards, I'd discourage you from buying such a power supply. 850W is enough to run two GTX 580 with mild overclocks on the GPU and CPU.

Also, I'd discourage you from 1866MHz RAM, as 1600MHz is quite a bit cheaper and there's really no real life performance difference.

With regards to the GTX 570, it depends on what you want. The EVGA card is, well, overclocked, so it should be slightly faster, but you can always overclock the Zotac. More importantly though, EVGA has better customer service and many of their cards even come with lifetime warranty, so you decide whether you want that.
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K CPU Cooler: Thermalright Silver Arrow CPU TIM: Thermalright Chill Factor III GPU: Sapphire Radeon 6970 VGA Cooler: Arctic Cooling Accelero Xtreme Plus SSD: Crucial M4 256GB HDD: Samsung F3 1TB Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 RAM: 4x4GB (16GB) Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz Optical Drive: ASUS 24X PSU: 550W Kingwin Lazer 80 Plus Platinum Fan Controller: Scythe Kaze Q12 Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX Keyboard: Rosewill RK-9000 Cherry MX Blue Mouse: Logitech G500 Monitor: Sceptre 27"
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12-26-2011, 05:52 PM,
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RE: Another New Build Question Thread
I used the "extreme power link" and put in everything I may add to this computer in the next year. The parts I have listed are just the start but I may add a blue ray drive, another HDD, etc over the next year. I get a 1001w total recommended. I compared models that was recommended here with current prices. An Enermax 900w w/ 4rails was $200. Antec 850w w/4 rails was $185. Went with the Enermax 1350w at $210. I found 1 or 2 in the 850w range for $140 to $150 but had 1 rail. I can save $25 and go with the Antec but was worried it was too close to the limit and may not give me enough to add to later on if I put in everything I could.

I wanted the PSU to be 80gold cert with multi rails and large enough to never have to buy another when up grading. Do I not need multi rail PSU? Are there any negatives to going too big besides my power bill? I can live with the $25 cost between a 850w and 1350w.

Gues the water cooler is out then.

I am thinking about getting different memory. How important is it to go with the brand Asrock recommends? Can I get a brand not on their list for the motherboard if the specs are the same?

Thanks
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12-26-2011, 07:45 PM,
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RE: Another New Build Question Thread
Yeah I don't really buy those power supply calculators. You'll want about 550-600W for one GTX 570 and 750-850W for two. 850W is definitely not close to the limit, as long as the power supply can deliver its rated wattage. Whether the power supply is multi rail or single rail, doesn't really matter, so long as the power supply can deliver its rated wattage on the 12V line. Honestly, it just seems like a waste getting an excessively large power supply. I'd recommend going with a smaller but higher quality power supply. Just because a power supply is 80 Plus Gold doesn't mean its good, and the Enermax series is pretty good, just not great.

It's not important at all to go with the memory brand ASRock recommends. In fact, I didn't even know they made RAM recommendations. It's all just bs, don't listen to it.
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K CPU Cooler: Thermalright Silver Arrow CPU TIM: Thermalright Chill Factor III GPU: Sapphire Radeon 6970 VGA Cooler: Arctic Cooling Accelero Xtreme Plus SSD: Crucial M4 256GB HDD: Samsung F3 1TB Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 RAM: 4x4GB (16GB) Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz Optical Drive: ASUS 24X PSU: 550W Kingwin Lazer 80 Plus Platinum Fan Controller: Scythe Kaze Q12 Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX Keyboard: Rosewill RK-9000 Cherry MX Blue Mouse: Logitech G500 Monitor: Sceptre 27"
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12-26-2011, 09:36 PM,
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RE: Another New Build Question Thread
The Enermax 1350 is the one suggested for the tier 11-12Huh

Unless this PSU is going to have a negative impact then its the one I will go with as its sitting on the table with the other parts already. Using the suggestions from this webpage on PSUs and looking at prices on newegg for those models or similiar, plus restock fee and S&H for the return; I would only get maybe $20 back from returning this one. Most likely it would be an even break.

Same as the memory.

All I can do is learn and move on or lose money trying to return these parts.

So on with my other parts I still need since the H100 seems to be out--

Will the SilverArrow CPU cooler have enough room to clear the heatsink on Ripjaw X? How about Noctua HN-14 or Themalright HR-02? Will any of these clear the memory heatsink?
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12-26-2011, 10:23 PM,
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RE: Another New Build Question Thread
Oh, if you've already bought it, just use it. There's no problem with it.

The Silver Arrow will clear your RAM.
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K CPU Cooler: Thermalright Silver Arrow CPU TIM: Thermalright Chill Factor III GPU: Sapphire Radeon 6970 VGA Cooler: Arctic Cooling Accelero Xtreme Plus SSD: Crucial M4 256GB HDD: Samsung F3 1TB Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 RAM: 4x4GB (16GB) Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz Optical Drive: ASUS 24X PSU: 550W Kingwin Lazer 80 Plus Platinum Fan Controller: Scythe Kaze Q12 Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX Keyboard: Rosewill RK-9000 Cherry MX Blue Mouse: Logitech G500 Monitor: Sceptre 27"
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12-27-2011, 10:12 PM,
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RE: Another New Build Question Thread
Well I was able to return the PSU and the memory without a restock fee so I decided to do it.

System now looks like this so far--

So far--
Intel I5 2500K $180
Asrook P67 Extreme4 Gen3 $165
Corsair 1050w $170
G.Skill 1600 x16 $76.50
Seagate Barracuda 7200 320GB Already have new
Samsung DVD/CD $19
Windows 7 Pro OS $109

I know 1050w is still over kill but still wanted to make sure I had enough to add extra drives and a blue ray down the road.
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01-09-2012, 08:42 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-09-2012, 08:43 AM by West2746.)
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RE: Another New Build Question Thread
I have been waiting for the release of the 7970 before deciding which GPU I want to go with. I have it refined now to 3 choices now--

A- 1 XFX 7970 card
B- 2 XFX 6970 cards in Crossfire
C- 2 EVGA OC 560GTX 448i in SLI

A and B are $600. C is $570. I perfer Nvidia cards and like EVGA but I am looking for the best GPU card. If choice A or B is far above C then I can live with AMD cards. Too bad Nvidia is not releasing their new cards yet. I only have 1 27" HD moniter.

Which of the above three would be the best bang for my buck?

This is really only going to be playing games.

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01-09-2012, 09:24 AM,
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RE: Another New Build Question Thread
I'd go with a Radeon HD 7970.

Simply put, I'd recommend a single video card over two video cards in crossfire/SLI, because you'll always get the maximum performance in every game, instead of being dependent updated drivers/supported games. It's less trouble and it always works.

Also, a single video card pulls a lot less power, will be a lot less noisy and leaves you with the option of adding a second video card in the future if you want to.

A Radeon HD 7970 is more than enough to handle pretty much any game maxed out at 1920 x 1080/1200.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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01-09-2012, 09:33 AM,
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RE: Another New Build Question Thread
I guess B and C would be best bang for buck.
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