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Need to decide between combos
11-11-2011, 10:28 AM,
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Need to decide between combos
Firstly, I would like to say this has to be the most informative and friendly website (along with a very helpful forums) I could find on the internet. I have been following along since months now and finally decided to join and be part of the community.

I always wanted to build my own PC and now as I have the means, I am thinking of doing so. I am basically looking at building a mainstream machine under about $1200. I won't need a monitor or speakers.

The guide on the website is really good but I found prices to be higher for most items than stated. I was looking at two combo deals on newegg which I think would suit my needs:

i5, 560 Ti

Phenom II, 6950

Now I have also read a bit of tutorials for first-time pc build. Also, on the website, I could see no build with AMD CPUs and I wonder why.

Finally, I want the assembly process to be as smooth as possible and I have read that intel cpu's have pre-applied thermal paste which is not the case in AMD's. Please suggest a good option out of the two for first time builder who would want to overclock a bit in future and possibly upgrade to dual graphic cards.
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11-11-2011, 11:32 AM,
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RE: Need to decide between combos
The Intel route is definitely the way to go if you want to overclock, it's well established the SandyBridge (K) series is the best right now for that. Depending on how much you want to overclock the only thing would be to look for a better CPU Cooler. But overall the Intel combo looks pretty good.
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11-11-2011, 12:44 PM,
#3
RE: Need to decide between combos
Yeah, you can save a lot with combos. Unfortunately, I can't link to combo deals on the website because they just change too often for me to keep up with them.

The i5 and 560 Ti will offer much higher performance, hence why I recommend that.

"Also, on the website, I could see no build with AMD CPUs and I wonder why. " There's Tier 1 OC of the Budget Gaming PCs that features an AMD CPU.

I have nothing against AMD processors, but they just get completely outclassed by Intel processors right now.

See for yourself:
Intel Core i5-2500 vs AMD FX-8150: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=288
Intel Core i5-2500 vs Phenom II X4 980: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/362?vs=288

Both AMD and Intel stock coolers come with pre-applied thermal paste, so that's not an issue.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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11-11-2011, 01:27 PM,
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RE: Need to decide between combos
(11-11-2011, 11:32 AM)Pineappl Wrote: The Intel route is definitely the way to go if you want to overclock, it's well established the SandyBridge (K) series is the best right now for that. Depending on how much you want to overclock the only thing would be to look for a better CPU Cooler. But overall the Intel combo looks pretty good.

(11-11-2011, 12:44 PM)MathieuB Wrote: Yeah, you can save a lot with combos. Unfortunately, I can't link to combo deals on the website because they just change too often for me to keep up with them.

The i5 and 560 Ti will offer much higher performance, hence why I recommend that.

"Also, on the website, I could see no build with AMD CPUs and I wonder why. " There's Tier 1 OC of the Budget Gaming PCs that features an AMD CPU.

I have nothing against AMD processors, but they just get completely outclassed by Intel processors right now.

See for yourself:
Intel Core i5-2500 vs AMD FX-8150: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=288
Intel Core i5-2500 vs Phenom II X4 980: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/362?vs=288

Both AMD and Intel stock coolers come with pre-applied thermal paste, so that's not an issue.

Thank you Pineappl and MathieuB. I am almost certain about the i5 build. Just wanted to know whether I should get it now or wait for black friday deals? Do you think all parts will get heavily discounted or it will be just the ones which are not worth getting?
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11-11-2011, 02:09 PM,
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RE: Need to decide between combos
Black Friday/Cyber Monday usually features great parts at great prices, not only parts that aren't worth getting. We'll have an article on the website on both days, with the best deals that we'll find.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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11-13-2011, 03:46 PM,
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RE: Need to decide between combos
(11-11-2011, 02:09 PM)MathieuB Wrote: Black Friday/Cyber Monday usually features great parts at great prices, not only parts that aren't worth getting. We'll have an article on the website on both days, with the best deals that we'll find.

Thanks Mathieu. Will wait for black friday/cyber monday updates!
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11-13-2011, 05:51 PM,
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RE: Need to decide between combos
(11-13-2011, 03:46 PM)aproxymate Wrote:
(11-11-2011, 02:09 PM)MathieuB Wrote: Black Friday/Cyber Monday usually features great parts at great prices, not only parts that aren't worth getting. We'll have an article on the website on both days, with the best deals that we'll find.

Thanks Mathieu. Will wait for black friday/cyber monday updates!

Also, if you live near Microcenter, 2500k's are 180 bucks and you get 60 bucks off most Z68/P67 boards. I placed a 2500k and a ASUS P8Z68-V LX LGA 1155 Z68 ATX Intel Motherboard into my cart and it came out to 253 after tax.
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11-13-2011, 06:40 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-13-2011, 06:46 PM by UTsportsman.)
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RE: Need to decide between combos
Thanks for starting this thread! I have been pulling my hair out trying to find the best parts for the best price and the i5, 560 ti seems to be about the best that I can find.

What else is needed to complete the combo? Should I add the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO? I saw it mentioned above that the intel comes with a stock cooler. Should I look into the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO if i plan on overclocking. And will the RAM included in the combo allow enough room for the aftermarket CPU cooler?

I guess a cd/dvd drive is needed also.. Other than these two additional parts I should be all set right?

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11-13-2011, 06:55 PM,
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RE: Need to decide between combos
(11-13-2011, 06:40 PM)UTsportsman Wrote: Thanks for starting this thread! I have been pulling my hair out trying to find the best parts for the best price and the i5, 560 ti seems to be about the best that I can find.

What else is needed to complete the combo? Should I add the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO? I saw it mentioned above that the intel comes with a stock cooler. Should I look into the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO if i plan on overclocking. And will the RAM included in the combo allow enough room for the aftermarket CPU cooler?

I guess a cd/dvd drive is needed also.. Other than these two additional parts I should be all set right?

Yes, the Hyper 212 EVO would be a good choice for overclocking. Even better would be the Corsair A70.

The RAM will only fit with the after-market CPU if you don't place it in the first RAM slot. Considering that the motherboard has 4 RAM slots, this won't be an issue.

Correct, you will indeed need a DVD Drive.

Yes, other than that, you're good to go.
Laptop: MSI GS30 Shadow-045 Dimensions: 12.6" x 8.9" x 0.8" 2.65lbs CPU: Intel Core i7-4870HQ Quad-Core + Hyper-Threading OC 2.5-3.9GHz RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 Storage: 2x128GB SDD RAID0 Audio: ASUS Xonar U3 USB Sound Card + Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones Screen: 13.3" - 1920 x 1080 IPS + 27" Dell P2715Q IPS 3840 x 2160 Keyboard: Filco Majestouch MX Cherry Blue Mouse: Logitech MX518
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11-13-2011, 07:22 PM,
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RE: Need to decide between combos
Thanks for the quick feedback, I think I am about to order! Just to make certain though, there are two RAM cards and they should both fit in the last two RAM slots right? Will there be any other obstructions from the aftermarket cooler?
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