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Modified Tier 4 build
07-05-2011, 08:39 PM,
#1
Modified Tier 4 build
Hello everyone,

New here, figured I'd try my first pc build in about 12 years...feeling like a noob again.

Great site, really like the tiered builds. Tier 4 seems to be basically what I'm looking for. Thus far I'm pretty sure I'll be using pretty much the suggested components but I had two primary questions I was hoping people could help me out with.

For the powersupply, the SeaSonic M12II 620W I noticed that newegg reports it has dual 12V rails, is this a concern? I thought a single rail was preferable?

While I'll likely stick with the tier 4 components, I was considering putting all this into the Antec 300 Illusion case recommended for the tier 3 build as I was hoping to save a bit of money on the case. Is this a mistake? ATX components should fit well in an ATX case?

Thanks so much for any thoughts.
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07-05-2011, 08:43 PM,
#2
RE: Modified Tier 4 build
You will be fine with both the power supply, if it is recommended in one of Mathieu's builds you know it must be good, and also with that case, it is a great case! Good luck with your build.
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07-05-2011, 08:51 PM,
#3
RE: Modified Tier 4 build
Well, first of all, welcome to the forums!

Regarding the PSU, dual 12V rail vs single 12V rail only matters when you're looking at cheap PSUs. With a unit like the Seasonic 620W which is properly designed to share power between the two rails, this is not an issue at all.

The Antec 300 Illusion will be just fine as a case for Tier 4.

Good luck with your build Smile
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07-07-2011, 10:06 PM,
#4
RE: Modified Tier 4 build
Thank you so much for the replies, all this makes me pretty nervous and I appreciate the feedback.

At this point I've basically gone through and ordered all the suggested tier 4 parts. Here are the changes I made

Case: Antec 300 Illusion
Processor: i5 2500k

I'm also using some spare parts temporarily to save on some cash...I think they will work?

hard drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 3.0Gb/s
graphics card: Radeon HD 4670 512MB

I had two additional questions if someone has some time

I haven't bought memory yet. Would this work well in my build?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820231193

Does anyone know if thermal compound goes bad? I used this when I upgraded a CPU and I bought too much, have an unopened but 2 year old tube

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...niq%20TX-2

thanks for reading my long post!
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07-07-2011, 11:29 PM,
#5
RE: Modified Tier 4 build
You will be more than fine with the hard drive, the GPU will definitely need an upgrade, and for memory just go with this kit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820231396
As for thermal compound, I do not know, but I don't think it should, otherwise it would have to be replaced every once in a while.
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07-08-2011, 12:28 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-08-2011, 12:29 AM by MathieuB.)
#6
RE: Modified Tier 4 build
(07-07-2011, 11:29 PM)cubsrule93 Wrote: You will be more than fine with the hard drive, the GPU will definitely need an upgrade, and for memory just go with this kit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820231396

+1 for what cubsrule93 said regarding the hard drive and memory.

However, a Radeon HD 4670 might just be fine for your needs. Question is: What do you intend on doing with your PC? If you plan on Gaming, what is the resolution of your monitor and what are the games that you intend to play? How long do you expect/want your video card to be "good enough" before needing an upgrade?

The answers to those questions will help us recommend a video card that would be appropriate for you.

As for thermal paste, it should be just fine, it usually has a pretty long shelf life (~10 years if my memory is good).
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07-08-2011, 04:55 PM,
#7
RE: Modified Tier 4 build
again thank you for the continued help.

I took a look at the suggested memory, I think that is the one from the build page. I guess my main concern is that I could not validate that it worked well with the asrock p67 pro3 motherboard.

I couldn't find it on Asrock's site:

http://asrock.com/mb/memory.asp?Model=P67%20Pro3

or on gskill's site: http://gskill.com/configurator.php

Not trying to be argumentative but I've never really understood how to select RAM and have always depended on either the manufacturer of the board or the ram to tell me it will work.

As for the graphics card my current plan is to use it just to get my system running. If it looks like all the components I ordered aren't DOA then I will likely start shopping for a card after I save some money. Resolution is 1680x1050 I believe. If the card can't handle it well then I was thinking of going with the suggested 560 TI or maybe a 550 TI if I can get away with it and save some cash. Prefer Nvidia, have had great luck with them.

Again thank you for all the comments.
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07-08-2011, 10:31 PM,
#8
RE: Modified Tier 4 build
As for memory, all current boards support 240-pin SDRAM DDR3, so as long as you see that you should be good. Just stick with sticks of the 1333 (PC 10666) variety as they are cheaper and there is really no real world performance benefit from "higher" performance RAM.
As far as the video card goes, if you won't be seriously playing games and you don't care about super high settings, then the 550 Ti will be just fine for your needs, but if you want more performance go with the 560 Ti.
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07-09-2011, 11:46 AM,
#9
RE: Modified Tier 4 build
The only scenario that demands higher performance RAM is when you're using integrated graphics on Llano, as the integrated GPU is very bandwidth limited.

Also, there's really no reason not to get 1600MHz RAM now, as the price difference between 1333MHz and 1600MHz has practically evaporated.
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07-09-2011, 05:21 PM,
#10
RE: Modified Tier 4 build
You should change the case to a Cooler Master Haf 912 since the price for the Antec illusion ($70 newegg) has risen. Just ordered mine from Amazon for $59 and it'll be here on Monday ^_^
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