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Although I would love to add some intelligent commentary regarding the most talked about processor evolution since Sandy Bridge (which I might add has been awesome since I came here and built one with said processor), instead I'll ask if anyone themselves has picked up an i5-6600K (or if by miracle, the i7-6700K)?

Things I'm reading:
  • 5-8% better than Devil's Canyon (4790K), but decent boost vs Sandy
  • Cooler thermal die / architecture, therefore higher overclock
  • worth it is it's in the $300-400 range

What I haven't heard is how DDR4, works on air (almost everything I see is water cooled), and "enhanced" feature set with Windows 10 outside DX12?

... And if none of those, figured I'd post a poll to see if any interest (ugh, typo on the 6700K... field too tiny to see the mess up Tongue ).

Cheers all,
The time clock was against me and I had to "settle" building a 4790K/Z97 system last month Big Grin

I'm still tuning the OC and the memory but at this point I could not be happier with the performance.
I'll be recommending them, whenever the i7 is actually in stock that is. The rest of the line-up is supposed to follow up in the few days/weeks.
@Dan-H

Yeah was going to pick that up too honestly about 3 months back. I guess I got too curious about Skylake back then to ultimately pull the trigger.

You're in a good place right now. Enjoy it. Smile

@MathieuB

Cool, looking forward to your perspective.

In the end, it would mean do I feel like doing a project again - new CPU would mean new everything. I still haven't updated my 7970 since all those years as its held up surprisingly well, and if I'm honest, a GTX 980 Ti would not be bottle necked at my current 1080p resolution. <Sigh>. It's just too darn fun to contemplate though! I can't help it!! Smile

Cheers gents.

P.S. Mathieu, did you correct my poll for me? Thanks sir!

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great platform for new builds. from a gaming perspective not that much of an increase in performance to warrant 500 bucks in hardware changes over haswell or ivy to upgrade. that cash would be better served in a new gpu upgrade. sandy bridge is still a strong gamer but gaming at 1080p or dual gpu setups would probably warrant an upgrade if the cash is not a problem. GTA V gets a 25% boost between platforms, other games get about 8-10%. other than that the big difference is dramatic decrease in frame latency between sandy and skylake making it smoother in gameplay.

with ddr4 prices coming down skylake will be that much more attractive as ddr3 will begin to be phased out. a couple of other platform changes makes it a great setup and future proof.

hopefully Zen will spur some competition in desktop parts again in 2016 like in the old days but i wont hold my breath. by then intel will be on 10nm process a year later.
(09-08-2015, 09:31 AM)PwnBroker Wrote: [ -> ]great platform for new builds. from a gaming perspective not that much of an increase in performance to warrant 500 bucks in hardware changes over haswell or ivy to upgrade. that cash would be better served in a new gpu upgrade. sandy bridge is still a strong gamer but gaming at 1080p or dual gpu setups would probably warrant an upgrade if the cash is not a problem. GTA V gets a 25% boost between platforms, other games get about 8-10%. other than that the big difference is dramatic decrease in frame latency between sandy and skylake making it smoother in gameplay.

Hey PwnBroker,

Thanks for chiming in, good to hear from ya.

Yes entirely my point that ultimately the GPU upgrade makes the most sense keeping everything else constant at 1080p.

One aspect I was questioning however is not related to the percentage gains, which typically everyone talks to either max fps or avg fps, but instead min fps and % drop. Going from 60 to 70 fps or even say 40 to 45 or 50 isn't something that's going to make it a big win for me. What I have been reading however even with Titan x as the GPU that's making me reconsider is how these new builds have min fps at or above avg or even max fps for sandy and eliminating split second pauses which the ivy/sandy platforms are starting to show.

So it's all about maintaining the fluidity than the max frames game.

Right now that's not too much of an issue for me, but I do notice the occasional hiccup more than I used to, and imagine that although fps average will still be respectable, the % it taps the min fps and how low is that min fps will start to get old and start the affect the experience.

Reading your post again, I think it's the frame rate latency we are talking about here.

Does that make sense or do I sound like I'm smoking something good?




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What you say makes sense, but it's probably your GPU showing its age in this case. A 4.6GHz SB Core i7 shouldn't be a bottleneck.
yep sandy bridge will see a lot more frame rate spikes and latency than skylake at 1080p and multigpu setups. they run about the same at 2560 res. on a single gpu. i agree with matb, those occasional spikes are probably due to that aging 7970.

yep been away a while, been doing re-certs and taking some new software engineering courses getting ready for software defined networking and NFV. the network is evolving faster than ive ever seen before.

the site and articles are better than ever keep up the good work matb.
Yeah I figured it might come back to the trusty old steed - 7970. Smile

Yes on all counts. I think I mixed personal experience with the 7970 and what I've been researching.

The dips I was referring to was actually tests from other sites using sandy/ivy/dc/Skylake with a Titan X, so as to test for CPU bottlenecks across the newest titles. One site in particular had them all OC'ed to the same clock speed. There frame rate latency was the topic for Sandy / Ivy and how less smooth they were at high intensity scenarios.

So for my rig would definitely benefit from a new GPU without doubt. My question is how quickly would the latency spikes creep up enough where I'd notice with next gen titles even with a new GPU? It's a future proofing question without a definitive answer I imagine.

So yeah, impressed with the rate of updates from HR lately and the solid content. Here is my first stop before anywhere else, and hasn't changed since I joined in 2013. Mathieu is the man.

Also software defined networking sounds fun and NFV a whole other universe. So you can essentially simulate network hardware without having the network hardware? Crazy stuff man. Everything is going the way of software, but does NFV make it more susceptible to being hacked than a hardware based / dedicated option?




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noticeable frame time variance only occurs higher than 16.6/33.2 ms at 60/30 fps respectively and the frame time would have to spike a lot to be noticeable unless you are super sensitive lol. the frame time decrease between the skylake vs whatever cpu has to do with the double cpu bus width, so that SB should do fine until games start requiring more of the pcie 3.0 bandwidth whenever that may be.

as far as SDN i may post another thread to kind of explain it not to hijack this one lol.
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